From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: vc-version-other-window Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:38:11 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <16739.54592.479553.218864@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097437139 21657 80.91.229.6 (10 Oct 2004 19:38:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, spiegel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 10 21:38:49 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CGjWq-0004Fx-00 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:38:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGjdk-0000BF-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:45:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGjdc-0000AL-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGjdc-0000A9-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGjdc-0000A6-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.163] (helo=simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CGjWD-0001pZ-Sj; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from empanada.home ([70.48.80.6]) by simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20041010193541.NTVF1635.simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.home>; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:35:41 -0400 Original-Received: by empanada.home (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2C8B53184BC; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:12:27 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28191 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28191 >> Would it be useful to release a patched version of OpenSSH? > And what happens when they release a newer (unpatched) version one month > later with some security fix? Forking like that is not really an option > I think. > We can certainly handle that. We need someone reliable to do a small > amount of work occasionally when needed. But to be useful, we need to convince distributions to that fork of OpenSSH. That just doesn't seem practical. > What is needed is for the glibc, cvs, and openssh people to stop > finger-pointing and to work together at coming up with a fix. > However, if someone send them a fix, and it has no practical costs, they > might install it. Are you in touch with the relevant people; could you > ask them to try to do this? Have they already done this? As far as I know, the problem can be fixed at various places. Within CVS it's inconvenient because it requires something similar to the cvs-ssh wrapper (but there were noises on the info-cvs list that they were maybe going to implement such a workaround anyway). IIRC it can be fixed in the libc as well (IIRC the problem there is to make sure that `fwrite' on a non-blocking file descriptor works reliably). Stefan