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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 67278f9e5a512ea20398da2cb4f8e0b4; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:11:09 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier via's message of "Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:28:59 -0400") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=87.248.110.57; envelope-from=mardani29@yahoo.es; helo=sonic307-32.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:270147 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: >>> Users can customize `before-save-hook' to add things like >>> `delete-trailing-whitespace' or `copyright-update'. However, there are >>> cases where you want to save a buffer without running any save hooks >>> without changing your configuration and then changing it back. > > Do you have concrete examples, to helps us assess what's really at stake > here? Maybe there are other ways to look at the problem :-) > For example, I have `delete-trailing-whitespace' in my `before-save-hook', but for a particular buffer I wanted to save it without removing the trailing whitespace, because trailing whitespace was syntactically meaningful in that case (the buffer contained some Markdown-like source code). I searched the Internet for some solutions and what I ended up doing is C-x C-q (to make the buffer read-only), C-x C-s, and C-x C-q to make the buffer writable again (from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14913398/in-emacs-how-do-i-save-without-running-save-hooks). It felt a bit like a "hack".