[Feature request] org-backup

[Feature request] org-backup

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

Hi list,

Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
keep notes, todos, etc.

It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
them. What do you think?

Cheers,

Marcelo.

Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Dan Davison]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi list,
>
> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
> keep notes, todos, etc.
>
> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
> them. What do you think?

Hi Marcelo,

I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.

Dan

>
> Cheers,
>
> Marcelo.
>
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Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

Hi Dan!

I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
would be useful.

Marcelo.

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
>> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
>> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
>> keep notes, todos, etc.
>>
>> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
>> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
>> them. What do you think?
>
> Hi Marcelo,
>
> I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
> recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.
>
> Dan
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>

Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

Anyway, doesn't seem it's something hard to do, so I might as well
just try getting something implemented, could be a good exercise in
elisp.

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
<celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan!
>
> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
> would be useful.
>
> Marcelo.
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
>>> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
>>> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
>>> keep notes, todos, etc.
>>>
>>> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
>>> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
>>> them. What do you think?
>>
>> Hi Marcelo,
>>
>> I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
>> recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Marcelo.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>

Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Bastien]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Anyway, doesn't seem it's something hard to do, so I might as well
> just try getting something implemented, could be a good exercise in
> elisp.

:)

Let us know how it goes.

PS: I'm with Dan on this.  For backing up directories, I use git repo.
For backing up larger projects... well, I back up my whole $HOME.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[suvayu ali]

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
<celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
> would be useful.

If you are on *nix, then maybe something like this is what you are looking for?

mkdir -p ~/org/backup && \
find $HOME -type f -name '*\.org' ! -path "$HOME/org/*" \
     -exec cp -t ~/org/backup/ \{\} \;

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

Ah! This would do I think :) Thanks!

Marcelo.

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:45 PM, suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
> <celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
>> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
>> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
>> would be useful.
>
> If you are on *nix, then maybe something like this is what you are looking for?
>
> mkdir -p ~/org/backup && \
> find $HOME -type f -name '*\.org' ! -path "$HOME/org/*" \
>     -exec cp -t ~/org/backup/ \{\} \;
>
> --
> Suvayu
>
> Open source is the future. It sets us free.
>

Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Bastien]

Hi Suvayu,

suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:

> If you are on *nix, then maybe something like this is what you are looking for?
>
> mkdir -p ~/org/backup && \
> find $HOME -type f -name '*\.org' ! -path "$HOME/org/*" \
>      -exec cp -t ~/org/backup/ \{\} \;

I created a "Backup" section on Worg's FAQ and mentioned this.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Suvayu Ali]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:06:51 +0100
Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> wrote:

> Hi Suvayu,
> 
> suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > If you are on *nix, then maybe something like this is what you are
> > looking for?
> >
> > mkdir -p ~/org/backup && \
> > find $HOME -type f -name '*\.org' ! -path "$HOME/org/*" \
> >      -exec cp -t ~/org/backup/ \{\} \;
> 
> I created a "Backup" section on Worg's FAQ and mentioned this.
> 

Thanks Bastien! I am glad that you thought its worth a mention on the
FAQ. :)

> Thanks!
> 


-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Dan Davison]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Dan!
>
> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
> would be useful.

A couple of possibilities:

A git repo doesn't have to be limited to a single directory. You could
have a git repo in your home directory, and git add org files, wherever
they may be located using a command something like
find . -type f -name '*.org' -exec git add '{}' \;

You could use symlinks where posible, so that your org files are all in
one directory, and project directories contain symlinks to those org
files.

Dan

>
> Marcelo.
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
>>> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
>>> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
>>> keep notes, todos, etc.
>>>
>>> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
>>> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
>>> them. What do you think?
>>
>> Hi Marcelo,
>>
>> I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
>> recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Marcelo.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>
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Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Bastien]

Hi Suvayu,

Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:

> Thanks Bastien! I am glad that you thought its worth a mention on the
> FAQ. :)

The topic of backing up org files comes quite often on the list, I'm
glad we can give some concrete directions!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

Hi Dan,

I don't think I understood -- AFAIK, git repos are per directory and I
can't add something from another directory to it ?

Symlinking could be a possibility, like keeping everything inside
~/org and symlink to another dirs.

Cheers,

Marcelo.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Dan!
>>
>> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
>> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
>> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
>> would be useful.
>
> A couple of possibilities:
>
> A git repo doesn't have to be limited to a single directory. You could
> have a git repo in your home directory, and git add org files, wherever
> they may be located using a command something like
> find . -type f -name '*.org' -exec git add '{}' \;
>
> You could use symlinks where posible, so that your org files are all in
> one directory, and project directories contain symlinks to those org
> files.
>
> Dan
>
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi list,
>>>>
>>>> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
>>>> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
>>>> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
>>>> keep notes, todos, etc.
>>>>
>>>> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
>>>> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
>>>> them. What do you think?
>>>
>>> Hi Marcelo,
>>>
>>> I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
>>> recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>

Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Dan Davison]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I don't think I understood -- AFAIK, git repos are per directory and I
> can't add something from another directory to it ?

Hi Marcelo,

Let's say the "base directory" of a git repo is the one in which you
issued "git init" and which contains a hidden ".git" subdirectory. You
can add files from anywhere in the directory tree rooted at the base
directory. In other words, if you make a git repo in your home directory

cd ~
git init

you can add files from any subdirectory of your home directory. Just an
idea.

Dan

>
> Symlinking could be a possibility, like keeping everything inside
> ~/org and symlink to another dirs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marcelo.
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi Dan!
>>>
>>> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
>>> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
>>> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
>>> would be useful.
>>
>> A couple of possibilities:
>>
>> A git repo doesn't have to be limited to a single directory. You could
>> have a git repo in your home directory, and git add org files, wherever
>> they may be located using a command something like
>> find . -type f -name '*.org' -exec git add '{}' \;
>>
>> You could use symlinks where posible, so that your org files are all in
>> one directory, and project directories contain symlinks to those org
>> files.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>>
>>> Marcelo.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
>>>>> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
>>>>> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
>>>>> keep notes, todos, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
>>>>> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
>>>>> them. What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marcelo,
>>>>
>>>> I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
>>>> recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>
>>>
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>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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>>
>
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Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

Ah, yeah, subdirs. I had misunderstood you.

Cheers,

Marcelo.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> I don't think I understood -- AFAIK, git repos are per directory and I
>> can't add something from another directory to it ?
>
> Hi Marcelo,
>
> Let's say the "base directory" of a git repo is the one in which you
> issued "git init" and which contains a hidden ".git" subdirectory. You
> can add files from anywhere in the directory tree rooted at the base
> directory. In other words, if you make a git repo in your home directory
>
> cd ~
> git init
>
> you can add files from any subdirectory of your home directory. Just an
> idea.
>
> Dan
>
>>
>> Symlinking could be a possibility, like keeping everything inside
>> ~/org and symlink to another dirs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dan!
>>>>
>>>> I already do this, but sometimes the files are spread around *many*
>>>> directories. I.e, the model of having everything in a
>>>> version-controlled directory is unpractical, so that's why I think it
>>>> would be useful.
>>>
>>> A couple of possibilities:
>>>
>>> A git repo doesn't have to be limited to a single directory. You could
>>> have a git repo in your home directory, and git add org files, wherever
>>> they may be located using a command something like
>>> find . -type f -name '*.org' -exec git add '{}' \;
>>>
>>> You could use symlinks where posible, so that your org files are all in
>>> one directory, and project directories contain symlinks to those org
>>> files.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although I try to keep all my org files inside a ~/org directory, I
>>>>>> often find myself creating org files outside of this directory
>>>>>> context, for example, as a bucket for a new project I'm working on, to
>>>>>> keep notes, todos, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It'd be nice if we had a org-backup function that would fetch all
>>>>>> files from the agenda + linked files and create a compressed backup of
>>>>>> them. What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marcelo,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think backing up text files is a job for other tools; not emacs. I'd
>>>>> recommend using a version control tool such as git for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>

Re: Re: [Feature request] org-backup

[Eric S Fraga]

Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> writes:

> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Anyway, doesn't seem it's something hard to do, so I might as well
>> just try getting something implemented, could be a good exercise in
>> elisp.
>
> :)
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
> PS: I'm with Dan on this.  For backing up directories, I use git repo.
> For backing up larger projects... well, I back up my whole $HOME.

For org files that are standalone such as the bucket for notes etc. on a
new project, I use RCS to keep them under version control wherever they
may be without having to put a whole directory under control of
git/hg/svn/darcs/...  Emacs handles RCS controlled files very well.

-- 
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: using Org-mode version 7.4 (release_7.4.509.g99aa5)