From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Periodical releases Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:11:06 +0800 Message-ID: References: <71588355363047528F16FE989690A488@us.oracle.com> <87r4ze3lf8.fsf@gnu.org> <877h16337m.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325758311 3477 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2012 10:11:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:11:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 11:11:47 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RikIU-00064k-CS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:11:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RikIT-00048p-Tx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:11:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43161) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RikIN-00048U-68 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:11:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RikIJ-0006xQ-43 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:11:39 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:60209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RikII-0006xI-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:11:35 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RikIG-000615-Lu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:11:32 +0100 Original-Received: from 123.114.37.220 ([123.114.37.220]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:11:32 +0100 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 123.114.37.220 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:11:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.114.37.220 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAGFBMVEUzRVhbQj4eZqO6SjnT eWpxnMetm5b6/PmidmqrAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1F B9cBBwMLBfKABCMAAAFoSURBVCjPtZI9a8MwEIaFoc7aYDdelQMna0Em3tsSr0XUeE2Q6a22a+v+ fk8fSSBkbDUI6dHpfe9OEvRgiD+ApqKPJgJeB6iUUXWESjUe/ig38AJrhqqvaU2nTIXbNvOQ40fe qdry4kyGoVWsfCQalXpHnJGM01wjWdYbMlXNFdsZDO69m9aqNqxEJqTEgbM5OF7wlEfIoll1Ked4 LbM5X2EdILLokEdmI8z7g5cKED0cuTC930TYhy7ZDekkXVGw/L60TguJePPxcJF48lpsSUWEA/Ju jGFNgJOXc4Hz7TmAdBeu5Ve4AEjOi2/2jfd3cAJZ+IbNrvdjgBZY01b+HTuG3cLws6BJZqVOj/pp T0OqVwx3rFq+QmJwx3loK5JSLEhDIt62+mtC2C+SrAUxEbV6C6v2BRbd6pILBKFpepKZJHgGgrKF sptSUUoczpwg2pQ7ZH1tgs0ou/917mzz6Cs2//C978cv5l07L02orIEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3.50 (Mac OS X 10.6.8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i4lUVvKSGs59OMj8KQfjHw6uhF0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147326 Archived-At: On 2012-01-05 17:31 +0800, Bastien wrote: > 2) I will probably release Org 8.0 before the end of the feature freeze > (say march or april). Not having it in Emacs 24.1 is not such a big > deal, agreed, but it creates a situation where people often install > Org on top of the one that comes with Emacs, which doesn't feel > optimal and leads to many questions, because of conflicting installs. > > Both are separate, and I can try to take care of (1) myself. I think in future it may be desirable to make more use of the packaging system now that we have one. It is like many of those GNU/Linux distributions. The core developers/maintainers are concerned with the core packages/functionality (it is better use of their time since they usually have better insight of the project) and the rest can be taken care by community members. For example the value of including org-mode in the source tree is quite little. If it is distributed with the packing system people can receive more timely bug fixes free of any constraint of the release cycle. Leo