From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why '`C-h f' now reports previously-autoloaded functions as "autoloaded"' Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:39:57 +0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357998024 17014 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2013 13:40:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:40:24 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 12 14:40:42 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1K8-0001gh-L5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:40:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Js-0001ec-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:40:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36085) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Jq-0001eW-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:40:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Jg-0005wx-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:40:15 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Jg-0005wM-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:40:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu1Js-0001Sf-35 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:40:20 +0100 Original-Received: from 182.48.109.8 ([182.48.109.8]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:40:20 +0100 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 182.48.109.8 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:40:20 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 8 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 182.48.109.8 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.91 (OS X 10.8.2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:N9vsRO7HOXE/UyNVwMG2cx+S+KM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156274 Archived-At: On 2013-01-12 21:11 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: > So you can tell whether you need to `require' its package before > calling it. But then we lose the ability to tell whether the package has been loaded or not, which is also important information. Leo