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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256011 Archived-At: Daniele Nicolodi writes: > > I don't know where you got the impression that I am advocating for Emacs > to be developed using Gitlab or Github. Advances in software carpentry > (a buzzword that nicely encompasses what I am talking about here) best > practices in the last 20 years expand to things completely unrelated to > the use of Gitlab or Github. Unfortunately, hacking on Emacs still > requires obliging to outdated conventions that only stand in the way of > contributors. > Could you give concrete examples of those "outdated conventions"?