From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: more on starttls, gnutls-cli and using tls for mail Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:40:14 +0800 Message-ID: References: <20039.8838.116211.694328@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8762m0n5qi.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313293251 18797 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2011 03:40:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 03:40:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 14 05:40:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsRZ9-0002rp-JY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:40:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44040 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsRZ9-0006nQ-8A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:40:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsRZ6-0006n9-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:40:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsRZ5-0007rM-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:40:44 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:40049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QsRZ5-0007rB-6c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:40:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QsRZ3-0002qg-Fl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:40:41 +0200 Original-Received: from 58.22.113.194 ([58.22.113.194]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:40:41 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 58.22.113.194 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:40:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 58.22.113.194 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3.50 (Mac OS X 10.6.8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QrTnvWeDOuIGX2bb8cJh7E9ERfo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143202 Archived-At: On 2011-08-14 09:26 +0800, Karl Fogel wrote: > Second: I think it was a mistake that we fully deprecated > `smtpmail-auth-credentials' in favor of ~/.authinfo, instead of, say, > just making the latter override the former when the latter is present. > It's good to have an entirely off-disk option for passing credentials; > maybe most users won't use it, but some will, and it's good in principle > to offer it. (For example, search for that variable in [1] to see how I > was using it.) I use smtpmail-auth-credentials to pass different user names for the gmail smtps I am using. With the new smtpmail.el I haven't found a way to do that. Leo