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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217622 Archived-At: Hi Jo=E3o, On 2017-08-17 15:40 +0100, Jo=E3o T=E1vora wrote: > I've been away from this list and away from hacking for a while now, but > I thought I'd return with a modest proposal for refactoring flymake.el > and making it more useful to users and also third-party extensions. > > Specifically, I'm thinking of separating its UI and from its > diagnostics-generating backends. Currently the latter rely purely on > lanching external processes and examining their output, but recent > experimentations with the LSP (Language Server Protocol) showed that to > not always be the case. Another example is Elisp itself, which is > syntax-checkable without an external tool. Thank you for working on this. I originally asked to maintain flymake.el because I wanted to make it work better with https://github.com/massemanet/distel (which is slime for Erlang) for syntax checking. But I have done little to maintain flymake :( There are a few comments on desirable changes to flymake on this thread https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-12/msg00215.html. Cheers, Leo