From: "Martin Carlé" <mc@aiguphonie.com>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: new link parameters and link abbreviations
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:25:13 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1bn0kq9x2.fsf@aiguphonie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2fupws3cw.fsf@Johns-MacBook-Air.local>
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Thank you for this confirmation of the abbreviation issue.
> I would suggest just defining short links ;)
Well, there are limits to this approach e.g. file+mnl {mnl = myNewLink}.
Furthermore, link definitions then tend to become pretty cryptic :-(.
Optimally, the 'org-link-abbrev-alist' could (optionally) even been made
buffer-local, in order to safe typing efforts in different work context.
I wouldn't mind changing the abbreviation syntax, if necessary.
> It seems like you can probably build the abbreviation functionality into the follow function
> right?
Don't really get what you mean by this.
On 2016-08-23 Tue 01:03, John Kitchin wrote:
> I can confirm this happens. I think it happens because the abbreviation
> is not listed in org-plain-link-re, so when the bracket link is
> activated, no type is ever defined (it is done by a group in the
> org-plain-link-re). The type is somewhat fundamental to the activation
> function, as it is used to look up all the link properties, and hence
> you get the default help (and all other properties too).
>
> I haven't thought of a simple fix though. It would involve adding the
> abbreviations to the known link types, and some kind of lookup for when
> the type in a link is not in org-link-parameters that resolves the type
> to something in org-link-parameters. Since the abbreviations seem to
> have quite flexible format, it isn't obvious how to do that robustly,
> without changing the abbreviation syntax.
>
> I would suggest just defining short links ;) It seems like you can
> probably build the abbreviation functionality into the follow function
> right?
>
>
> mc writes:
>
>> Yes, with pleasure:
>>
>> Let's put it the most simple way:
>>
>>
>> 1. Here is my new-link definition:
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>> (org-link-set-parameters "new-link" :help-echo "show new-link's help echo")
>> #+end_src
>>
>> (it doesn't change matter, if there would be :follow or :store function etc.)
>>
>>
>> 2. the 'tooltip' shows my :help-echo string as expected.
>>
>> [[new-link:awesome]]
>>
>>
>> 3. Then I add the following abbreviation of the above link:
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>> (setq org-link-abbrev-alist '(("nl" . "new-link::%s")))
>> #+end_src
>>
>>
>> 4. the 'tooltip' does not work but shows the default:
>>
>> [[nl:awesome]]
>>
>>
>> Hope that clarifies the issue.
>>
>>
>> Thanks once more for your sustained patience making link handling much
>> easier and more powerful!
>> mc
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:17, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> that isn't a feature I have used too often. Could you post a small example that illustrates the problem? Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:13 AM, mc <mc@aiguphonie.com <mailto:mc@aiguphonie.com>> wrote:
>>> The new link parameters are fabulous!
>>>
>>> Only the parameter ':help-echo' seems not to be respected, if a link is used by an abbreviated form as defined by the 'org-link-abbrev-alist'.
>>>
>>> Would be nice, if this could be fixed.
>>>
>>> Anyway, thank you for this big step forward,
>>> mc
>>>
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2016-08-19 4:13 ` new link parameters and link abbreviations mc
2016-08-20 14:17 ` John Kitchin
2016-08-20 14:55 ` mc
2016-08-23 1:03 ` John Kitchin
2016-08-23 6:25 ` Martin Carlé [this message]
2016-08-23 7:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-08-23 9:20 ` Martin Carlé
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