Can't turn off hide-stars

Can't turn off hide-stars

[Lawrence Bottorff]

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I have searched high and low through my init/config and I can't find where
orgmode is suppressing the display of leading asterisks of headings. I've
got org-hide-leading-stars set to nil -- but it turns itself back on
whenever I open an org file. I can start a clean, blank org file (no
#+STARTUP hidestars/showstars) and create a few headings -- to see, once
again, the leading stars suppressed. My org-bullets is commented out in
init-land. I try an emacs -Q and of course I have leading stars on
sub-headings, however deep. Yes, it's something in my init/config, but I
just can't find what's suppressing leading stars.

The whole reason I'm trying to do this is I'm tinkering with babel SML and
whenever I have a code block under a heading -- depending on the depth of
the heading -- the SML code block can be mis-justified. And if I
promote/demote the heading around with M-<right/left arrow> the SML code
alignment dances around depending on the depth. I can do C-c ' and the
alignment is perfect; but come back the org file and it's wonky. So if I
set up an SML babel environment in an emacs -Q environment -- with leading
starts -- no problem.

This is maddening, to say the least. I need to turn off suppression or
figure out why suppressed stars and babel SML blocks don't mix.

LB

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Re: Can't turn off hide-stars

[Ag Ibragimov]

Have you tried tweaking org-hide face? Maybe the problem is with the font you use, is it monospaced?

On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 22:40, Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have searched high and low through my init/config and I can't find where
> orgmode is suppressing the display of leading asterisks of headings. I've
> got org-hide-leading-stars set to nil -- but it turns itself back on
> whenever I open an org file. I can start a clean, blank org file (no
> #+STARTUP hidestars/showstars) and create a few headings -- to see, once
> again, the leading stars suppressed. My org-bullets is commented out in
> init-land. I try an emacs -Q and of course I have leading stars on
> sub-headings, however deep. Yes, it's something in my init/config, but I
> just can't find what's suppressing leading stars.
>
> The whole reason I'm trying to do this is I'm tinkering with babel SML and
> whenever I have a code block under a heading -- depending on the depth of
> the heading -- the SML code block can be mis-justified. And if I
> promote/demote the heading around with M-<right/left arrow> the SML code
> alignment dances around depending on the depth. I can do C-c ' and the
> alignment is perfect; but come back the org file and it's wonky. So if I
> set up an SML babel environment in an emacs -Q environment -- with leading
> starts -- no problem.
>
> This is maddening, to say the least. I need to turn off suppression or
> figure out why suppressed stars and babel SML blocks don't mix.
>
> LB

Re: Can't turn off hide-stars

[Lawrence Bottorff]

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Changing my theme didn't help. The foreground-color of hide-face is set to
the background color of my theme. What I suspect the problem is is the
spaces and tabs used by sml-mode for indentations. I don't think other
languages use a mix of spaces and tabs. They use just spaces. Is there a
way to convert every tab to its size in spaces?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> > As far as "org-hide face", I'm not sure what you mean.
>
> You've said:
>
> > I can't find where orgmode is suppressing the display of leading
> asterisks of headings.
>
> The asterisks being displayed/hidden is controlled by 'org-hide' face. Run
> "M-x describe-face org-hide RET" and see what the foreground of that face
> is set to. Alternatively, you can try switching to another theme and see if
> that makes any difference.
>
> On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 12:30, Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did have a monospace font, but changing to a vari-spaced one didn't
> help.
> > I can promote/demote the heading above the code block and the alignment
> of
> > the code shifts along with it, specifically this sort of block with a let
> >
> > #+begin_src sml
> > fun countUpFrom1 (x : int) =
> >     let
> > fun count (from : int, to : int) =
> >    if from = to
> >    then to :: []
> >    else from :: count (from+1, to)
> >     in
> > count (1, x)
> >     end
> > #+end_src
> >
> > Note, this is copied into my gmail from below a heading 4 -- which in the
> > sml code block looks good. However, as I pasted this into gmail, the
> spaces
> > and tabs are behaving differently, e.g., the let is exactly 4 spaces
> over,
> > while the second nested fun is just a single tab over, which gmail isn't
> > honoring. This
> > is the same behavior I'm seeing at, e.g., a level 3 heading.
> >
> > Again, when this file is brought up in a clean emacs -Q where only SML
> > mode/ob is set up and stars are all showing there is no (spaces v. tabs)
> > shifting around trouble. If I could definitively turn off star hiding I
> > could get around this shifting problem. But why this is happening is very
> > mysterious. As far as "org-hide face", I'm not sure what you mean.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Have you tried tweaking org-hide face? Maybe the problem is with the
> font
> >> you use, is it monospaced?
> >>
> >> On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 22:40, Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have searched high and low through my init/config and I can't find
> >> where
> >> > orgmode is suppressing the display of leading asterisks of headings.
> I've
> >> > got org-hide-leading-stars set to nil -- but it turns itself back on
> >> > whenever I open an org file. I can start a clean, blank org file (no
> >> > #+STARTUP hidestars/showstars) and create a few headings -- to see,
> once
> >> > again, the leading stars suppressed. My org-bullets is commented out
> in
> >> > init-land. I try an emacs -Q and of course I have leading stars on
> >> > sub-headings, however deep. Yes, it's something in my init/config,
> but I
> >> > just can't find what's suppressing leading stars.
> >> >
> >> > The whole reason I'm trying to do this is I'm tinkering with babel SML
> >> and
> >> > whenever I have a code block under a heading -- depending on the
> depth of
> >> > the heading -- the SML code block can be mis-justified. And if I
> >> > promote/demote the heading around with M-<right/left arrow> the SML
> code
> >> > alignment dances around depending on the depth. I can do C-c ' and the
> >> > alignment is perfect; but come back the org file and it's wonky. So
> if I
> >> > set up an SML babel environment in an emacs -Q environment -- with
> >> leading
> >> > starts -- no problem.
> >> >
> >> > This is maddening, to say the least. I need to turn off suppression or
> >> > figure out why suppressed stars and babel SML blocks don't mix.
> >> >
> >> > LB
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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Re: Can't turn off hide-stars

[Lawrence Bottorff]

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I've found a way to side-step this issue by simply evaluating (setq-default
indent-tabs-mode nil). From then on any formatting is just spaces and the
shifting doesn't occur. Still, this is odd behavior.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:26 PM Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Changing my theme didn't help. The foreground-color of hide-face is set to
> the background color of my theme. What I suspect the problem is is the
> spaces and tabs used by sml-mode for indentations. I don't think other
> languages use a mix of spaces and tabs. They use just spaces. Is there a
> way to convert every tab to its size in spaces?
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > As far as "org-hide face", I'm not sure what you mean.
>>
>> You've said:
>>
>> > I can't find where orgmode is suppressing the display of leading
>> asterisks of headings.
>>
>> The asterisks being displayed/hidden is controlled by 'org-hide' face.
>> Run "M-x describe-face org-hide RET" and see what the foreground of that
>> face is set to. Alternatively, you can try switching to another theme and
>> see if that makes any difference.
>>
>> On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 12:30, Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I did have a monospace font, but changing to a vari-spaced one didn't
>> help.
>> > I can promote/demote the heading above the code block and the alignment
>> of
>> > the code shifts along with it, specifically this sort of block with a
>> let
>> >
>> > #+begin_src sml
>> > fun countUpFrom1 (x : int) =
>> >     let
>> > fun count (from : int, to : int) =
>> >    if from = to
>> >    then to :: []
>> >    else from :: count (from+1, to)
>> >     in
>> > count (1, x)
>> >     end
>> > #+end_src
>> >
>> > Note, this is copied into my gmail from below a heading 4 -- which in
>> the
>> > sml code block looks good. However, as I pasted this into gmail, the
>> spaces
>> > and tabs are behaving differently, e.g., the let is exactly 4 spaces
>> over,
>> > while the second nested fun is just a single tab over, which gmail isn't
>> > honoring. This
>> > is the same behavior I'm seeing at, e.g., a level 3 heading.
>> >
>> > Again, when this file is brought up in a clean emacs -Q where only SML
>> > mode/ob is set up and stars are all showing there is no (spaces v. tabs)
>> > shifting around trouble. If I could definitively turn off star hiding I
>> > could get around this shifting problem. But why this is happening is
>> very
>> > mysterious. As far as "org-hide face", I'm not sure what you mean.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ag Ibragimov <
>> agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried tweaking org-hide face? Maybe the problem is with the
>> font
>> >> you use, is it monospaced?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 22:40, Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I have searched high and low through my init/config and I can't find
>> >> where
>> >> > orgmode is suppressing the display of leading asterisks of headings.
>> I've
>> >> > got org-hide-leading-stars set to nil -- but it turns itself back on
>> >> > whenever I open an org file. I can start a clean, blank org file (no
>> >> > #+STARTUP hidestars/showstars) and create a few headings -- to see,
>> once
>> >> > again, the leading stars suppressed. My org-bullets is commented out
>> in
>> >> > init-land. I try an emacs -Q and of course I have leading stars on
>> >> > sub-headings, however deep. Yes, it's something in my init/config,
>> but I
>> >> > just can't find what's suppressing leading stars.
>> >> >
>> >> > The whole reason I'm trying to do this is I'm tinkering with babel
>> SML
>> >> and
>> >> > whenever I have a code block under a heading -- depending on the
>> depth of
>> >> > the heading -- the SML code block can be mis-justified. And if I
>> >> > promote/demote the heading around with M-<right/left arrow> the SML
>> code
>> >> > alignment dances around depending on the depth. I can do C-c ' and
>> the
>> >> > alignment is perfect; but come back the org file and it's wonky. So
>> if I
>> >> > set up an SML babel environment in an emacs -Q environment -- with
>> >> leading
>> >> > starts -- no problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is maddening, to say the least. I need to turn off suppression
>> or
>> >> > figure out why suppressed stars and babel SML blocks don't mix.
>> >> >
>> >> > LB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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