From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eshel Yaron via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66394: 29.1; Make register-read-with-preview more useful Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2023 14:02:52 +0100 Message-ID: <m1a5qs21vn.fsf@dazzs-mbp.home> References: <87il7ib6cu.fsf@posteo.net> <875y3386ep.fsf@posteo.net> <87a5sddh14.fsf@web.de> <8734y5vnj7.fsf@posteo.net> <87bkcslr18.fsf@web.de> <87y1fwtyrl.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1fut1wp.fsf@web.de> <87ttqgpjiz.fsf@posteo.net> <87wmvbibpr.fsf@web.de> <877cnb2n63.fsf@posteo.net> <8734xyc8z0.fsf@web.de> <87zg05rewi.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttqcg8gw.fsf@web.de> <87h6mcr8ol.fsf@posteo.net> <87r0l73029.fsf@web.de> <877cmdx8ud.fsf@posteo.net> <87v89hufbw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfytdj86.fsf@posteo.net> <87plzo3n5o.fsf@bzg.fr> <87ttp0es35.fsf@posteo.net> <87msusepvv.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: Eshel Yaron <me@eshelyaron.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; 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Sat, 02 Dec 2023 13:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 66394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2023 13:03:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1r9PeF-0006aF-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2023 08:03:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16]:33666 helo=eshelyaron.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <me@eshelyaron.com>) id 1r9PeD-0006a7-CS for 66394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2023 08:03:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1701522175; bh=S6ffT0gH7rQxnEchSR60j/xURQLayaRPvwmrC7/65Cg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=E6BgONpubtueFF0TeHGjpMBXwSUmB6Z+doUaIX4E9dftyP2GX1Ye5sOsujJPkl6Ds pxwq037vhWGZVzAGsxNX0RYCO9XvyCfhtwUdYLD10Gr6SLV+EY4oL8tgZcnF2iJhVn Uh4e1fnF779kcxpSHoMJ33CKgcIFYew6jA2JEtAQFXteQnM/Y8aIgTN93SOYv7fOdz jvxy6hKUPW16/NPbeDqoky2TdTTE5RZGk1ZMPdOiJ+YPD2VV6Qkd5qDJnAQSauqTal M/k8GnEtW7MmqP2lB4BdkNxSjRhFFt5lcZgODfKuzGRsRgVcLFuO3Yy3MmAIZ86+ea YYk5xk+8YZygg== In-Reply-To: <87msusepvv.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Sat, 02 Dec 2023 12:43:32 +0000") X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:thievol@posteo.net::J9xRit3Qr/SJN9m/:1LwS X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:bzg@gnu.org::/4WNT2EEYXTnZV2y:Uok X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:michael_heerdegen@web.de::qzvfilRJow2A6lRc:iVS X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:jonas@bernoul.li::iG5p378sE75vVymM:2iZJ X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:stefankangas@gmail.com::QC7pVY7F2a/mjqsj:2nZv X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::TxxWkng4C09ngEBj:3sPS X-Hashcash: 1:20:231202:66394@debbugs.gnu.org::iiaC0yZhazuTyqFz:AvyU X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:275375 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/275375> Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes: > Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes: > >> Hi Bastien and Eshel, >> >> I see, you want to go fast. Thanks, but this not only about speed. Using a minibuffer to read a key has other disadvantages: it limits the range of keys that can be easily used as registers since now specifying the `C-a` register is much harder (as Michael mentioned). This also makes register commands less convenient or and even impossible (when `enable-recursive-minibuffers` is nil) to use inside an existing minibuffer. >> Using read-key+minibuffer, as I said would be a pain to implement, >> hopefully (IIUC) we can use only minibuffer and exit immediately and it >> is simple to implement (3 lines): >> >> 1) Set register-use-preview to nil. Hmm, but this disables the automatic register preview, which I still want to see, preferably after a short delay, just like before. >> 2) Apply this patch on register.el: >> ... >> >> Let me know if this is acceptable for you. > > Even better is this patch which ask for confirmation when overwriting a > register but not when jumping, inserting or setting a new register: > > ... That's improves things a bit, but see above. I can see how confirmation could be helpful for some people, but not everyone would appreciate the added friction. I basically suggest reverting to the previous behavior (or otherwise restoring full compatibility), and making any involvement of the minibuffer in reading registers optional, for example by providing a new user option `register-read-from-minibuffer`. Best, Eshel