From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86lk5f4fjb.fsf@timbral.net> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203595656 7769 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2008 12:07:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 13:07:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSADN-0004Cc-LZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:07:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSACs-0007c7-Gj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:07:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSACp-0007bb-1S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:07:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSACo-0007bO-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:07:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSACo-0007bL-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:07:14 -0500 Original-Received: from cpe-69-204-130-115.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.204.130.115] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSACn-0001Hz-JM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:07:13 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:06 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:33 -0500) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89820 Archived-At: ... does region highlighting make it harder to learn to use Emacs ...? As far as I can see it does, since extraneous highlighting means you are less likely to use C-SPC (set-mark-command) for navigation or use C-SPC and then C-a (move-beginning-of-line) when in the center of a line (i.e., use Emacs as an editor. I know this sets the mark twice but the single keyboard command of just C-a (move-beginning-of-line) does not set the region to be just the part of the line moved over.) With Transient-Mark mode disabled, those commands do not cause highlighting in editing buffers. Today's GNU Emacs CVS snapshot, Thu, 2008 Feb 21 11:06 UTC GNU Emacs 23.0.60.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.5) -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc