From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197373229 23078 80.91.229.12 (11 Dec 2007 11:40:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:40:29 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 12:40:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J23TY-00036E-Rp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:40:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J23TH-0005bl-22 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:40:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J23Sv-0005Kq-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:57 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J23Ss-0005Hz-Ln for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J23Ss-0005Hj-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:54 -0500 Original-Received: from cpe-69-204-164-144.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.204.164.144] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J23Sr-0000Iy-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:54 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:39:54 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85038 Archived-At: ... you can keep on editing everything, including custom-set-faces, in your .emacs. Except I don't always edit custom-set-faces in my .emacs. Sometimes I use a customize interface. As I said, I find fonts and faces confusing. When I first set a face -- even after putting more than a hundred in my custom-set-faces expression in my .emacs -- I often use the less efficient interface that reminds me what to do. That is a great advantage of that non-programming interface. It is especially important since I seldom make changes often enough to remember all the options. However, when I change the face (or many faces all at once), I generally edit my .emacs file. A proposal that Customize not save stuff to .emacs will not affect you if you don't use Customize. ... which does not help me because I sometimes use the non-programming customize interface rather than the programming Customize interface. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc