From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mouse-autoselect-window Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189047887 10923 80.91.229.12 (6 Sep 2007 03:04:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:04:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 06 05:04:44 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IT7fg-0004nG-0w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:04:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IT7fe-0001NH-6I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:04:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IT7fb-0001N4-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IT7fb-0001Mc-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IT7fa-0001MX-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:04:38 -0400 Original-Received: from cpe-69-204-164-144.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.204.164.144] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IT7fa-00088y-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:04:38 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:04:40 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77924 Archived-At: > The original post described a desire to shift automatically from > frame to frame. "Drew Adams" responded No, it did not. I simply asked some questions and reported an apparent doc problem and perhaps a difference in behavior on MS Windows. I never said anything about wanting the focus to follow the mouse across frames. You may not have said that, but since you went from frame to frame but the variable talks only of windows, I noted that. It may well be a doc problem. I don't know anything about restricted code. Perhaps Eli can help you. ... about focus-follows-mouse letting one shift automatically from frame to frame. That is a window manager function, not an Emacs function. I thought I made that clear. How did I misstate that? > Non-nil means autoselect window with mouse pointer. If the window with the mouse pointer is in a different frame, then that sentence ... The documentation (the sentence after the right angle) does not talk about frames at all. So why would you expect a mouse pointer to focus another frame? That is a good stylistic question. I think the sentence is meaningful and accurate as it stands. But it seems you interpret it as talking about shifting frames, too. I may be misinterpreting you, but if not, why do you think that? Also, of course, I can reach all the buffers from a single frame. I assume that on GNU/Linux etc. the focus moves but the window is not raised - that's the behavior I would prefer, anyway. It depends on how you set your focus policy for a window manager. Both in Enlightment, which I use mostly, and in KDE, which I check occasionally, I set a focus-follows-mouse policy in which I raise the focused window. For one, I personally cannot stand having a part of my active window hidden. You can do otherwise. At least one other person reports a preference for click-to-focus. The two variations are a user choice. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc