From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1180779173 30451 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2007 10:12:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:12:53 +0000 (UTC) To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 02 12:12:48 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HuQbI-00039q-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:12:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HuQbH-0006AQ-4l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HuQbC-0006A1-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HuQbC-00069k-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HuQbC-00069h-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from cpe-69-205-32-54.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.205.32.54] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HuQb9-0003Ad-KF; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:12:13 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:54:02 -0400) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4 (tstamp-) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72047 Archived-At: Is there no way to escape a colon somehow, so that Info does not interpret it? Colons came into the early Info long before their other uses were invented. As RMS says, In the long term, we could redesign Info format. However, such a change takes years to put into place. He wonders ... if we could use some limited subset of HTML ... Consider DebianDoc, which is an XML format that looks like HTML and converts to Texinfo. It exists and works fine. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/sgml-howto/x306.html However, the key is code that converts from the Microsoft windowing system `doc' format that is used by many, including, for example, US nuclear operators. They use it for `procedures' (what we would call `written orders'). The `doc' format handles many of the layout, font, and printing needs that people have. Moreover, it is now used by many even though it carries legal restrictions. It is intended for printing on paper but in Texinfo or in a deriviative could be converted to HTML, DVI, PDF, PostScript, LaTeX, and such, for high resolution output. Converting it to the low resolution output that Info offers would be more difficult and perhaps impossible. If that could be done, then we would be golden. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc