From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [simon.marshall@misys.com: mouse-autoselect-window needs a delay] Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151338772 30285 80.91.229.2 (26 Jun 2006 16:19:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 26 18:19:29 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Futo5-0005rP-3Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:19:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Futo4-0007zX-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Futnk-0007vx-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Futnh-0007uE-6n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Futng-0007uB-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Futzb-0003HN-DT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:31:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.168.108.225] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fut5n-0006uZ-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:33:39 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56202 Archived-At: > WMs that support focus-follows-mouse together with > raise-on-focus have a similar issue. ... deal with that issue > by (a) having a delay, (b) requiring the mouse to be stationary, > or (c) both, > ... focus is less likely to be transferred when the user does > not wish it. My current WM implements (a) with something like a > 0.5s delay. > Comments? Simon. I have focus-follows-mouse together with raise-on-focus in my window manager and mouse-autoselect-window in Emacs, with zero delay in both cases, and have never had a problem. Indeed, I love the current configuration. It is much easier and more efficent for me than any alternative. Recently I suffered an alternative: because of a lightning strike, I had to run WindowMaker (on an old and and known-to-be-broken machine, but less broken than the zapped machine). That instance of the window manager (the only one I could run on that machine at first) did not have raise-on-focus that I could find. It was terrible. I moved the cursor much more. (I don't know if a working WindowMaker lacks raise-on-focus; if it lacks, as delivered, the window manager is broken. More likely, the lack is a side effect of the old and broken machine.) -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc