From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bootstrap from scratch Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200505050024.j450OoFG023552@emr.cs.iit.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115293184 11497 80.91.229.2 (5 May 2005 11:39:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 05 13:39:41 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTegS-0000f4-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:38:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTenx-0008WV-Ke for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DTedy-00020z-3V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DTedx-00020k-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTebg-0008OU-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:33:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.168.108.225] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DTeV6-0002Rs-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:26:40 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Thu, 5 May 2005 11:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: Ed Reingold In-reply-to: <200505050024.j450OoFG023552@emr.cs.iit.edu> (message from Ed Reingold on Wed, 04 May 2005 19:24:50 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36700 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36700 During a bootstrap build, compilation halted at a prompt from emacs/lisp/calendar/solar.el However, I could not enter that information into the *compilation* buffer, since it is read-only. As a fix, I suggested Perhaps `calendar-latitude' and `calendar-longitude' should be set to 0.0 rather than nil by defcustom. Ed Reingold wrote Very bad idea. Then a user will never know that the times of events (solar/ lunar times) are garbage. which is a good argument. However, the *compilation* buffer is read-only. Presumably, the user could be prompted to type `C-x C-q' (toggle-read-only) in Emacs and then enter the information. However, the query stops compilation in the middle of what may be a long build that the person is not watching. So that solution is no good. Perhaps it would be better to set `calendar-latitude' to 51.5 and `calendar-longitude' to 0.0 by default but then tell people who want to learn about solar and lunar times that that default location is for Greenwich, England. That info should go away if `calendar-latitude' and `calendar-longitude' are set to any other value. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc