From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:15:54 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1Cy9gA-0004QyC@rattlesnake.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <004a01c50ce6$4a5ce320$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se)
In X Windows, when you move your mouse cursor over the button that
says `Save for Future Sessions' the help documentation should not only says
Make your editing in this buffer take effect for future Emacs sessions.
as it does, but also
This action automatically writes to your existing initialization file
or creates a .emacs file if you lack one."
Otherwise, novices may be confused where custom automatically writes
and saves values.
This change is a bug that should be fixed during this feature freeze.
Other than discussion over the exact language to be used, this change
only involves adding two lines to the `custom-buffer-create-internal'
defun in emacs/lisp/cus-edit.el
from
:help-echo "\
Make your editing in this buffer take effect for future Emacs sessions."
to
:help-echo "\
Make your editing in this buffer take effect for future Emacs sessions.
This action automatically writes to your existing initialization file
or creates a .emacs file if you lack one."
I used the phrase `existing initialization file' because some people
specify a different name for their .emacs file than `.emacs'.
However, the default for custom is to create a .emacs file
automatically.
More confusion: I just discovered another bug.
I started an instance of Emacs with `emacs -Q' with a different user,
one that lacked an existing initialization file. When I set an option
with `M-x customize-option RET baud-rate RET' a new .emacs file was
created, as expected. However, I also received a message that said
Saving settings from "emacs -q" would overwrite existing customizations
But since I had no existing customization, this message was wrong!
This is a second bug that should be fixed before the release.
As people keep observing, customize is a can of worms. The more we
look, the more creepy, crawly things we see. Worse, we are not going
fishing nor distributing them over a physical garden to improve it.
I once thought it was a good idea to offer a feature to write new
values to an initialization file. I am not so sure now.
--
Robert J. Chassell
bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc
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2005-01-31 0:20 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file should ask forconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-01-31 1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-31 2:02 ` Miles Bader
2005-01-31 1:16 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file should askforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-01-31 1:55 ` Miles Bader
2005-01-31 2:06 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-31 15:21 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-31 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-31 21:39 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-31 22:37 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file shouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-01-31 22:59 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file should askforconfirmation Kim F. Storm
2005-01-31 23:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-01 0:44 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-01-31 23:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-01 8:56 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 14:11 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-01 16:21 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 7:27 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-02 18:01 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file shouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-02 18:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-02 19:02 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 2:43 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-03 6:58 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 7:39 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-03 9:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-03 14:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 15:18 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-03 15:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:30 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 19:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 20:05 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 20:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 20:18 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-03 20:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-04 10:22 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Kim F. Storm
2005-02-07 5:32 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-07 7:25 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-07 7:34 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-07 17:28 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-07 20:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 20:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-08 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-07 13:45 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 16:46 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-07 14:15 ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2005-02-07 16:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-07 20:22 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 20:29 ` Customize buttons that changeuser'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-08 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-09 8:11 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-02-09 13:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 15:07 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfiles Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 15:53 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-09 8:11 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-02-09 13:31 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-09 17:27 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-09 20:31 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-09 21:27 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-10 14:42 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-10 15:20 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-11 21:12 ` Customize buttons that changeuser'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-09 14:12 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-09 17:17 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-10 18:39 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-10 21:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-11 21:13 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-12 14:27 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-12 18:04 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-12 18:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 21:01 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-12 21:21 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 21:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-12 21:42 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-13 0:17 ` Customize buttons that changeuser'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-13 0:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-13 4:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-14 2:25 ` Customize buttons thatchangeuser'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-13 4:32 ` Customize buttons that changeuser'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-14 2:07 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-14 2:21 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-14 3:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 19:03 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 19:21 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 20:09 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 8:37 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-12 9:14 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-12 11:48 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-12 14:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-07 20:51 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-02-08 20:37 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-15 6:18 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-02-15 7:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-16 9:32 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-16 13:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-16 14:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-16 17:14 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-16 23:07 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-15 17:51 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-15 18:33 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-15 19:14 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-15 19:51 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-16 7:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-17 10:34 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-02-15 23:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-16 0:03 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-16 0:56 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-17 10:35 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-17 12:44 ` Kim F. Storm
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[not found] ` <m3oeejyxd6.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>
2005-02-17 17:27 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-17 18:32 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-17 20:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-17 23:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-17 22:57 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-18 8:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-18 13:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-18 14:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-18 14:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-18 22:59 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-18 23:29 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-18 23:45 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-19 1:16 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-19 1:28 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-19 3:10 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-19 21:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-19 20:55 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-19 21:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-20 2:31 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-19 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-20 8:52 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-20 17:09 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-20 19:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-20 20:18 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-20 20:46 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 1:00 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-20 17:17 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-19 9:44 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-19 15:42 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-19 9:44 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-17 18:34 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-18 14:13 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-18 15:17 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-19 3:51 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-16 0:37 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-17 10:35 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 19:13 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file shouldaskforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 13:30 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file should askforconfirmation Richard Stallman
2005-01-31 1:22 ` Customize buttons that change user's custom file should ask forconfirmation Miles Bader
2005-02-01 13:30 ` Richard Stallman
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2005-02-10 17:46 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
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