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From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize"
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1CwoFA-0004QvC@rattlesnake.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CwmPH-0002uC-FB@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:12:47 -0500)

        The "Changed outside customize" has been a great help for me ...

    We could provide an option ...

As far as I can see, the only reasonable way to avoid a message of
that sort is to make sure that customize reports the *actual* value.

And then, it would be useful for customize to tell a user whether the
actual value was set by custom-set-faces or custom-set-variables or by
some other function.

Please remember:  we do not want to discourage people, especially
non-hackers, from learning Emacs Lisp.  We want people to write code,
even simple code, in their .emacs file.  Otherwise, Emacs becomes
mysterious.  

The interface that uses the custom-set-* functions should always be a
stepping stone.  We should expect novices to edit expressions that
appear automatically generated in their .emacs file.

-- 
    Robert J. Chassell                         
    bob@rattlesnake.com                         GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
    http://www.rattlesnake.com                  http://www.teak.cc

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-03 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-26  0:03 Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Richard Stallman
2005-01-31 10:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 13:30   ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 14:32     ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 18:58       ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 20:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-01 20:38           ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 20:44           ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 21:05             ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 23:52               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-01 21:19             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-01 21:35               ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 22:11                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-01 22:26                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02  1:03                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-02  1:34                       ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02  2:11                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-02  2:51                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03  6:40                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 22:28                   ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 22:40                   ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03  6:39                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03  7:29                       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-05  5:27                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 16:54                       ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 22:40                 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 21:25           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03  6:39             ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-02  7:57           ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-02 18:33             ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 21:04               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02 22:11                 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 22:55                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-02 22:45                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:49                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 16:12                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:51                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 16:01                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:14                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-04  7:27                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:12             ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 19:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-03 19:59                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 20:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-05  5:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 20:53               ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 22:08                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 22:13                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04  1:04                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04  1:31                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04  3:16                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 21:10               ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2005-02-03  6:39           ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03  6:41       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-03 15:23           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:48           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-01 15:41   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02  7:40     ` Per Abrahamsen

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