From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom file should askforconfirmation Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:39:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107207978 30528 80.91.229.6 (31 Jan 2005 21:46:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 31 22:46:11 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CvjN4-0008KU-00 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:46:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CvjZs-0007Ul-0d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:59:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CvjZ4-0007H0-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:58:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CvjYx-0007De-WD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CvjYx-0007D4-IY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:58:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.108.225] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CvjJl-0007SD-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:42:45 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:39:16 -0500 (EST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32682 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32682 ... Another possibility to consider for this might be "Installed Values" (or "Stock Values"). "Stock Values" is best. It will cause me to ask, `what is meant by "stock values" ... ?' Like anyone who is not a novice Emacs person, I follow the convention and set values in my .emacs file. Only for features that I do not understand, like fonts, do I use customize. And, of course when I realize I made a mistake and can see a better face, I change the customized values that I have set within my .emacs file by `custom-set-faces'. Asking what is meant by "stock values" is worthwhile for people who have used Emacs for two decades or more -- for example, off hand, I cannot remember whether `customize' considers stock values to be those you see with `emacs -Q' or whether it uses the previously set values. And the phrase is harmless to novices. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc