Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers

["Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote,

    If users who potentially would prefer Lisp names don't even know
    that displaying Lisp names is an option, then that is a loss.

It is even worse when it is not an evident option.  I just started a
plain vanilla Emacs using `emacs -Q' from an Emacs built on 28 Dec
2004.

In that instance of Emacs, I brought up the customization buffer for
`Escape Glyph' from by clicking on `escape-glyph' in *Faces*.

The *Faces* buffer does tell me the Lisp name.  

However, the *Customize Face: Escape Glyph* buffer does not.

I could not find any way of showing it by clicking on either of the
two buttons that showed some possibility:  `State' and `Value Menu'.

(As for the other buttons, I did not click on them because: I did not
want to see the parent groups, I did not want to hide the face, and it
looked to me that the generic commands, such as `Set for Current
Session' were not relevant.)

Perhaps I could do something different, but the action is not evident.
(The Info for (emacs)Easy Customization did not help either, not in a
quick look.)

Please, either stop trying to prettify names altogether or provide
both the prettified and proper name, as in

    Escape Glyph face, escape-glyph: (sample) Hide Face

rather than

    Escape Glyph face: (sample) Hide Face

Then those of us who would use customize for features we do not
understand, like faces, could actually use it.

Also, what is the equivalent command to `C-h v' (describe-variable)
for faces which are not variables?  `C-h C-h' (help-for-help) does not
tell, at least, not obviously.  (Please remember, all this is for
people who are not experts on the topic, so everything must be
obvious.)

Thank you.

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