From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current CVS doesn't bootstrap Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <01c4c3f3$Blat.v2.2.2$7e8aa060@zahav.net.il> <01c4c41c$Blat.v2.2.2$0fa338a0@zahav.net.il> <200411062248.iA6MmEm29919@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <01c4c487$Blat.v2.2.2$d4c31400@zahav.net.il> <200411071743.iA7Hhfi01732@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200411071933.iA7JXul02016@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200411072021.iA7KL0E02044@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099873044 30997 80.91.229.6 (8 Nov 2004 00:17:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 08 01:17:12 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQxDc-00029f-00 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 01:17:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQxLv-0000l8-P7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:25:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQxLn-0000kx-SQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:25:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQxLn-0000kY-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:25:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQxLm-0000kV-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:25:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.110.189] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CQxC1-0002Es-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:15:33 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <200411072021.iA7KL0E02044@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:21:00 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29546 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29546 I did that to give concrete idea of the times that were involved on fast computers, with concrete numbers. I did a `make maintainer-clean' this morning and the full build took me 1.5 hours. I will spend the time when needed, but not otherwise. It is ok to tell people what bargains in reliability versus performance they can make. It is not ok to assume that performance may never be an issue. Yes, very true. ... it would be good to mention the _possibility_ of always using `make maintainer-clean' ... Yes, that is reasonable for people with fast machines. We should encourage them. But for others, we should be practical.... -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc