From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> <5x8ysg6p4r.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200306052323.h55NNr4B002965@rum.cs.yale.edu> <9003-Fri06Jun2003125021+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054907964 11697 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 13:59:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 15:59:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OHkV-000325-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:59:19 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19OI35-0008Rs-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:18:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OHle-0006AJ-Bn for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OHlG-00069j-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OHlF-00068m-6j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OHlE-00066l-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <9003-Fri06Jun2003125021+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14831 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14831 Eli Zaretskii writes So let's make Info documents look and feel modern, like HTML does, without losing any of the wonderful features HTML lacks. You are right. The problem is, what is meant by `look and feel modern'? To me HTML looks more than two decades old, even though I know it is not. This is because output expressions do not distinguish between references to the same document on a different page and distant documents, and because I cannot go to next, previous, and subsequent nodes readily, or do regular expression searches through a multi-page document. It looks to me that HTML was designed by someone who thought everyone would always be on one planet on the same, fast local area network. I don't see how hiding node names could be a step in the wrong direction. Because node names tell you where a file is located. Sometimes a file on on someone else's local area network, and your connection to it is slow or non-existant. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com