From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Crotti Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: c/c++ project management and debugging Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:57:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4D0F4058.6050101@gmail.com> <038dfa58-3e80-4c49-bbd0-c1bbb16c41f1@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> <87bp4ex0a4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <7e99bd12-91df-4cc2-bfc9-576df4c5283b@i18g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293011923 12873 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2010 09:58:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:58:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 10:58:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVLSw-0006Zb-MQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:58:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40731 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PVLSw-0002uU-0X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:58:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52944 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PVLSN-0002uP-6S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:58:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PVLSM-0006I5-4R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:58:03 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44220) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PVLSL-0006I0-Td for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVLSL-0006Ie-8H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:58:01 +0100 Original-Received: from ip1-201.halifax.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.108.201]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:58:01 +0100 Original-Received: from andrea.crotti.0 by ip1-201.halifax.rwth-aachen.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:58:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip1-201.halifax.rwth-aachen.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WAQJjlavgudYpXVP00dH9I18+Uo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77775 Archived-At: Elena writes: > > Moreover, when your heavily customized Emacs start to "misbehave" what > can you do? Start "emacs -Q" and begin evaluating sexps. Oh, what an > advanced debugging aid! Come on, Pascal, IDEs have something to teach. That doesn't make sense, your IDE doesn't misbehave maybe just becasue it doesn't let you change how it internally works. If there is a "full power" language to change how your tool works, of course you can do any nasty thing. But actually the debug environment for elisp is very powerful and nice to use. Try to randomly modify some internal configuration files and then tell me how your wonderful IDE helped you to fix the problem. To me it seems (no offense) that you should just try to learn more emacs/elisp.