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From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bold by moving pixels problem
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:21:56 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m18Ef6S-000IeAC@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021120220834.GC29543@gnu.org> (message from Miles Bader on Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:08:34 -0500)

   Yes, that happens with the font I use too; however, as I said in my original
   post, it actually doesn't seem to make much difference to readability.

I know what you mean -- on some fonts it does not matter.  But in this
case, it is very obvious and ugly.

   If the only thing that concerns you is the `synthesized bold,' I suppose a
   variable could be added to specifically inhibit this behavior.

Nice, but not enough.

   However, some `real' bold fonts actually have this same problem --
   characters like `m' can be only vague blobs, with the vertical strokes
   undifferentiated.  Perhaps in such a case, people would like to disable
   even `real' bold-face.

Yes -- I would like to disable `real' bold-face.  

I would like everything with bold to be `normal' weight; I then use
color to indicate bold.  With this laptop screen, that works best.  (I
am using "DodgerBlue4" for background and "cyan" for foreground --
suits me well.)

   So maybe it would be better to add a more general feature that could also
   make such a decision based on the actual font rather than universally.

Yes.

   [Another case might be fonts that don't have italic -- some people
   might like to e.g. display an underline instead in this case]

Yes -- again, on this screen, my italic shape looks terrible, so I
use color for this, too.  (I have an underline face, which I could
use for italic, but color works best.)

Do please try to come up with some variable; that way I can use the
shape changers on appropriate screens and what amounts to a fixed
width sans serif font with colors for most of my other faces.

Thanks!

-- 
    Robert J. Chassell                         Rattlesnake Enterprises
    http://www.rattlesnake.com                  GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
    http://www.teak.cc                             bob@rattlesnake.com

  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-21  0:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-07 19:39 Gtk version getting closer Jan D.
2002-11-08  0:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08  9:21   ` jasonr
2002-11-08  9:56     ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-08 11:25       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08 10:36         ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-09 14:27         ` Jan D.
2002-11-09 21:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-09 11:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 14:16   ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:19     ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 15:05   ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-11 10:19     ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-11 18:36       ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12  5:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-12  7:24           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12 17:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13  4:40             ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  5:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 13:21                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 15:38                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 17:58                       ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 18:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:07                       ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 23:03                       ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 15:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 15:55                   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-13 18:23                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 18:42                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 21:15                         ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 18:58                       ` David Masterson
2002-11-13 16:52                   ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-11-14 12:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 16:46                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-15  2:20                       ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 12:29                         ` Robert J. Chassell
     [not found]                         ` <m18EUbO-000IeAC@localhost>
2002-11-20 22:08                           ` Bold by moving pixels problem Miles Bader
2002-11-21  0:21                             ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2002-11-21  1:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-21  1:44                                 ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                                   ` <m18HRR2-000IeBC@localhost>
2002-12-17  5:00                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17  6:28                                       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17  7:08                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 10:01                                           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 12:26                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19  8:34                                               ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 10:18                                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:18                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19 11:27                                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:25                                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 13:55                                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 11:02                                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 14:02                                                         ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09  7:28                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09  7:52                                                           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 14:25                                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 10:15                                               ` signal handling bogosities Miles Bader
2002-12-20 17:12                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-20 17:46                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-12-20 18:35                                                   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-20 22:06                                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-21 20:26                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-21 23:42                                                       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-23 20:58                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-22  2:02                                                       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-22  2:27                                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-23 20:58                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-17 10:31                                       ` Bold by moving pixels problem Kim F. Storm
2002-12-17 16:38                                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-17 23:54                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21  6:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-16  1:34                       ` Gtk version getting closer Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 12:16               ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-12 12:34           ` Jan D.
2002-11-12 17:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 10:15               ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 12:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 18:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:13                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:55             ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-14 17:25               ` Jan D.
2002-11-14  4:09             ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 17:49               ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 21:47                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 21:30                 ` David Masterson
2002-11-16  1:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-16 16:11                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 11:32         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-13 17:09         ` David Masterson
2002-11-14 17:31           ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:22             ` David Masterson
2002-11-16  1:34               ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-18  5:06                 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15  2:36           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-15  4:04             ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 16:36               ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 16:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 18:46                   ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 21:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 22:35                       ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 17:33                 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 18:55                   ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 23:18                     ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-16  0:44                       ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 19:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-15 18:00                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-19 13:26                   ` Miles Bader
2002-11-20 21:13                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-20 21:56                     ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-21  0:47                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-22 21:00                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-21  0:38                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21 13:09                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-21 14:08                         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21 21:47                           ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 18:13                 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 19:03                   ` David Masterson
2002-11-09 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-10  9:02   ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:20     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-04  8:54 Bold by moving pixels problem Richard Stallman
2003-06-04 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05 10:58   ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-21  5:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-04 23:30 ` Kim F. Storm
     [not found]   ` <E19O2Z4-0002Rk-GY@fencepost.gnu.org>
2003-06-06  1:45     ` Kim F. Storm
2003-06-06  0:46       ` Miles Bader
2003-08-07  6:04 last-sexp-toggle-display Richard Stallman
2003-08-07 16:56 ` last-sexp-toggle-display Luc Teirlinck
2003-08-11 12:53   ` last-sexp-toggle-display Richard Stallman
2003-08-11 17:59     ` last-sexp-toggle-display Luc Teirlinck
2003-08-11 18:54       ` Bold by moving pixels problem Robert J. Chassell

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