From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037364489 13462 80.91.224.249 (15 Nov 2002 12:48:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CftH-0003Uy-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:48:07 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18Cg68-00068j-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:01:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CfsN-0003CX-00; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:47:11 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CfbS-0003qJ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:29:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CfbL-0003jj-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CfbH-0003fW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:29:34 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Miles Bader on 15 Nov 2002 11:20:59 +0900) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9449 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9449 Miles Bader wrote I rarely use menus in emacs either -- for invoking commands. I do keep the menu-bar turned on, though, because the menus are great as _documentation_, especially for modes like Gnus that have 1,000,000 commands that I only occasionally use. .... That is a good reason to use menus. Whoever write the tool tips should keep this in mind as one of purposes to which the menu bar will be put. The task grows more challenging! In your same circumstance, I type `C-h m' (describe-mode) which usually provides me with all the information I need, but not always. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com