From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [LONG] Some thougths and a patch for the search menu-bar functions Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20020910084203.80798.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031658634 6753 127.0.0.1 (10 Sep 2002 11:50:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ojXL-0001kc-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:50:31 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17ok7k-00018X-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:28:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ojXQ-00026b-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:50:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17ojUx-0001u8-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17ojUv-0001tv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ojUv-0001to-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:48:01 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: damien_terrier@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <20020910084203.80798.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> (message from Damien Terrier on Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:42:03 -0700 (PDT)) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7801 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7801 The most significant change was in the organisation of the search functions. ... the new version asks "Interactive Search or Non Interactive Search ?", then "forward or backwards ?" then, the choice for one of four item "Search/Repeat Search // Search Regepx/Repeat Search Regexp". This order teaches novices poorly. Usually, non-incremental, interactive search is a mistake. Please place the Non-incremental search an option at the lowest level in a location where it can safely be ignored. Almost everyone who uses Emacs avoids Non-incremental search (what I think you are calling `non-interactive search') since Incremental search is so much more pleasant and efficient. (I presume you have renamed `Incremental' to `Interactive' even though all these commands are `Interactive') Please do not offer Non-incremental search as an always-necessary choice near or at the top level of a set of questions, but as a mostly-to-be-ignored option in a menu, near or at the bottom, where it can be safely forgot by any one who tries it more than once or twice. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com Free Software Foundation http://www.gnu.org GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8