From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200207111201.g6BC1OM16938@aztec.santafe.edu> <15680.26449.937153.817907@localhost.localdomain> <200207271853.g6RIrdt10834@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028029007 12335 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2002 11:36:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17ZVJ0-0003Cq-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:36:46 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17ZVah-00033A-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:55:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ZVJE-0000YD-00; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:37:00 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ZVF9-0000Eo-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:32:48 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: eddy@opera.no In-Reply-To: (message from Edward Welbourne on Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:32:28 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6174 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6174 ... however, the downside of reliable software (e.g. GNU/Linux and emacs in particular) is that this isn't guaranteed to happen several times per day ... indeed, this emacs session is now 20 days old and showing no signs of trouble. I know the problem. For testing purposes I start a separate instance of Emacs, one that I call a `plain vanilla' Emacs since I do not load my normal .emacs file, but start it `-q --no-site-file'. Using this `plain vanilla' Emacs, I can load and evaluate a test .emacs file or the customize expressions in my .emacs file or test other features. Here is the expression I use in my ~bob/.twmrc file "Vanilla Emacs 21 under GDB" !"xterm -T 'GDB for Vanilla Emacs' \ -n 'GDB for Vanilla Emacs' \ -bg mediumblue -fg white \ -geometry 80x24+965+4 \ -wf -e gdb /usr/local/bin/emacs \ -x /home/bob/.gdb-vanilla-emacs-config & " where /home/bob/.gdb-vanilla-emacs-config consists of: run -q --no-site-file --eval '(blink-cursor-mode 0)' show args -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com