From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrate Tramp Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200206171631.g5HGVBM13861@aztec.santafe.edu> <200206190223.g5J2NlQ15963@aztec.santafe.edu> <200206201434.g5KEYru18709@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024691588 3918 127.0.0.1 (21 Jun 2002 20:33:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17LV5g-000115-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:33:08 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17LVY0-0006Xv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:02:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17LV5h-0002vJ-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:33:09 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17LV2u-0002ck-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:30:16 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5074 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5074 The "hop methods" are treated quite differently from the normal methods, as you can see when you look at the description of the variable tramp-multi-connection-function-alist. Perhaps you can figure out how to treat them differently internally, but to make them look similar to a plain user. As a user, I cannot see why connecting to fencepost and titan separately should require different methods than connecting to fencepost and titan together. >From the IP address I am using right now, I can connect to each individually (or will be able to when the bugs are fixed); but from other IP addresses, I can connect directly to fencepost but then will have to make a hop to get to titan. In both cases, I expect to use the same method to get to fencepost. I think it really odd that I, a user, should have to remove the mimencode info from the one connection and include it in the other. Emacs itself should be able to say; `oh, I don't need this extra info that the user provided me; I will throw it away'. How about filtering "hop methods" so that internally, in the appropriate context, `smx' becomes `ssh' ? -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com