From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:36:36 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17ISu4-000IeIC@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200206130905.g5D95ie06537@aztec.santafe.edu> (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:05:44 -0600 (MDT))
... I wonder--would it be useful if the header line displayed at
the top of a window were part of the buffer text, rather than a
feature like the mode line?
That adds complexity to the notion of `buffer'. A policy of
`buffers all the way' would add simplicity.
Instead of remaking a buffer so it has two parts, only one of which is
a window, the `buffers all the way' idea is to make every window
within a frame be a buffer of some sort: tool bar, menu bar, mode
lines, fringes, scroll bars, Info header lines, and the windows
themselves.
For this to work, buffers would need an optional `not-copy-able'
attribute as well as the current attributes. You need to be able to
mark a mode-line as non-copy-able (except when you want to copy it).
(I am using the word `copy' because of the sometimes ambiguous meaning
of the word `read'; a scroll-bar is `readable' by the human looking at
it; but it is not `copy-able'.)
Currently, buffers have the three attributes of
always copy-able
write-able
not-write-able
Currently, mode-lines and the various bars have the two attributes of
not-copy-able
not-write-able
The `buffers all the way' idea requires, among others, four
attributes:
copy-able
not-copy-able
write-able
not-write-able
Also, buffers would have to have location constraints within frames
and between frames. For example, a scroll bar would normally sit
beside the buffer on which it reports and be tall and thin. Of
course, you might want sometimes to put a scroll-bar elsewhere or to
make it a different shape. So you re-write the `scroll-bar buffer'
library. (SCWM `contraints' might provide some ideas for location
constraints.)
A mode-line would be a buffer with these default characteristics:
not-copy-able
not-write-able
dependent on another buffer
always display when other buffer shows
always below the other buffer
one line high, same width as its parent
a specified set of fonts and faces
containing special information, such as name of buffer
If you wanted to copy a visible mode-line, you could change the
`not-copy-able' attribute to `copy-able'; if you wanted to change its
look, you would change its faces.
To save screen space, you could turn off the buffer's variable that
says `always display in this context'. You could, for example, turn
off a scroll-bar by burying it, or by not constructing it. Or you
could hack a tool-bar to show some of the same features as an Info
header line, and avoid the Info header line.
Of course, you can do any of this hacking now; the idea is that with a
single `buffers all the way' policy, conceptualization is easier.
--
Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com
Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-13 11:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-06 18:32 Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Romain FRANCOISE
2002-06-06 23:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-07 23:22 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-08 0:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-08 21:39 ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-06-08 22:08 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-06-08 22:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-09 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-09 10:56 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-09 5:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-10 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 16:46 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 20:50 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 22:18 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-10 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11 11:15 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-11 21:00 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-11 5:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-10 20:58 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11 9:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-06-10 19:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-11 19:25 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-11 20:01 ` Jason Rumney
2002-06-11 23:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-12 12:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 22:15 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-13 21:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 23:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-19 13:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-19 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-21 21:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-21 23:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-21 9:40 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 15:34 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-13 17:17 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] ` <200206130905.g5D95ie06537@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-06-13 11:36 ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2002-06-13 23:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-14 15:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-17 19:28 ` Patch for emacs-lisp-intro.texi Christian Egli
2002-06-11 19:25 ` Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Richard Stallman
2002-06-09 23:04 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-10 10:15 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-09 15:18 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-09 15:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-09 23:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-10 23:43 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10 5:14 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-10 5:24 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10 23:43 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-11 0:12 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-11 5:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11 7:05 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-11 13:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-12 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 10:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-12 23:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 13:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-14 15:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-14 19:00 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-12 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 2:53 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-12 18:21 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-12 21:36 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-06-11 4:17 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-11 5:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11 15:26 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-09 5:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-07 13:35 David Ponce
2002-06-07 13:56 David Ponce
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