From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mac OS-compatible ports Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:26:19 +0800 Message-ID: References: <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> <87ipl7zaea.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sjkbib14.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3baui4b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxacqlg4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwg3pfy4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739c2dscy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehvkdgfr.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325399209 15503 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2012 06:26:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 06:26:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 01 07:26:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhEsX-0006Vx-Ga for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 07:26:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37173 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhEsW-00054I-Kc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 01:26:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhEsU-00054A-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 01:26:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhEsT-0005Dh-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 01:26:41 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:42924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhEsS-0005DX-Oc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 01:26:41 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhEsR-0006RP-RW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 07:26:39 +0100 Original-Received: from 123.114.37.7 ([123.114.37.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 07:26:39 +0100 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 123.114.37.7 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 07:26:39 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.114.37.7 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACkAAAApAQAAAACAGz1bAAABKElEQVQYlWNg3NIt5FDPUPt7 4+X79Qyucz5/ugik+L2PBgKpyphaIK921q23QDnG0NBQoMr/vaWl9f8ZLL78uPv5PwN7RETfzXoG jhmFz27XM0RXmpuY/WfY+fv0Mc56BvFybfXA/wwL5t/wF61n2PU59axXPcOVzbmSW/8zrNt1benC /ww70hqUU/4zKCtrT9jwn8FhwynbufUMendE2aLqGRpdX9al1zM8eh17lKeeQcTMrdD5P8P3j/YT Q/8zXHSb7p1Qz/C4OM2JuZ7hgtI7K6AjqsMnf8j4z8C6xG1tw3+GqpqvsVn/GTzmpD9j/8/wP/oZ S/l/Bka+QO/g/wy15ueeFQL9N1O8mPU/g+umV3t1gdT0/1bTgHLqYVeXAlWKpMWt+w8Az82C9nHf X0cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3.50 (Mac OS X 10.6.8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VdovJwkh56VB9specw51EylFn1M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147112 Archived-At: On 2011-12-31 21:22 +0800, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > I agree with your statement, but we're not "pushing" the NS port only > because it's for GNUstep. It's quite usable on Mac OS X. I wonder how you reach that conclusion. If you don't use Emacs heavily on a Mac, then you don't know if it is quite usable. My experience is that it is not. John Wiegley were also disappointed by the ns-port some months ago and he has been happy using the Mac-Port. My impression is that Mac-Port is a piece of solid well-engineered software. It is a pity not more Mac users can make use of it and have to resort to nonfree software such as TextMate etc. Cheers. Leo