From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50187: 28.0.50; tramp is called from calendar Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:10:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sflo4ajt.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnazfmdj.fsf@gmx.de> <87zgfvth3y.fsf@gnus.org> <87k06yrcwb.fsf@web.de> <875yiirc61.fsf@gnus.org> <877d2yimkn.fsf@web.de> <87leqoaum7.fsf@web.de> <87bkrifyxf.fsf@web.de> <87o7vg6i27.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23171"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (darwin) Cc: Michael Albinus , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 50187@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 15 18:11:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrT3-0005nt-0G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 18:11:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53518 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrT2-0001jb-46 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:11:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrSB-0001Bp-6x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42053) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrSA-0004te-CX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrSA-0006Qe-7p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:11:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sam Steingold Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50187 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 50187-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50187.166325822824664 (code B ref 50187); Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50187) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2022 16:10:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58985 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrRb-0006Ph-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:10:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qv1-f43.google.com ([209.85.219.43]:45577) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oYrRL-0006Ox-D5 for 50187@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:10:25 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qv1-f43.google.com with SMTP id o13so14502417qvw.12 for <50187@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:message-id:date:reply-to:return-receipt-to:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:sender:from:to:cc:subject :date; bh=OXniuAWtQUZviEzM9dmAZuBTI9i1Q6va75LcERlh8Dg=; b=h1m07pqIuM60x9KPIZc9FX1OUtTKzKtSoD9actBdvJUE5a7JPUklwMVel+OL0PLd4S FwDF2SaQMKfV6uCZhDLa6hZ3yAqUV/LG4qpuR2ngHd/8cEuih1cCr9laBNgf8fegWRG1 anPE/Hq13ym5pWn+k8IPM75GqzuE0AS9SjgaPEslVtcx2eIyzgyXzAUgoHkJ9OzqcbPf HYSkierDC1zQbyAUSZQMptRmGmJMov8MejADC33poWjOZwPwjmwWlFx535xbmoxTQe+H /u3kdCU4qrfXz7FoC8MgaDdXrmVItmDiMi20h4/4QVeoxAmLF69SDW+sABEcc60cZf9A Wb0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=mime-version:message-id:date:reply-to:return-receipt-to:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:sender:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=OXniuAWtQUZviEzM9dmAZuBTI9i1Q6va75LcERlh8Dg=; b=Th/tnIN5XFLgbEC0Gy8lAHC3wHcLSfyxjUv5oJaNKArQKihkyfFrrBPUv6jfkDzmPv KDesKE4LniPtBAO/jG0kVJTEQcHbF4Xy/rDlhBpEwTiHSE0fnucuAmUXvqp+2UqKxOj1 qbuLTtjQQRpmEeMxpq7mAZXCmOLTpyRyzo0RAm3PJsc9s+gZ/eXKu53BCs/e2PPgYD4r kOwNibw410oV2qi0OCOn5Q2ZBFIceG6GoD8qMR/m8rpRjs7tCq8Xl+aK+TfH7CW7ppYH uAXh8n4OlCBdjjr/giRzYWZNuNc5IT5bVNUl5ZprfmuzsdcQpoixmNWtRElQ/lFVSkOI T4Qg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2FHatKYvzFFtafity0mRrfoxBag5yXQqP16WviMBs5krNZN7ov /YLOc8l0HhoMVw3ZaXoleA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7TTW8s4QFacudcGmanQ/fuD1fiQuACprYvPKgJNtI+VpkBirmIgqGG1KhI965Ilc9NubgFcQ== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:9a4c:0:b0:4a4:3ad8:3c28 with SMTP id q12-20020a0c9a4c000000b004a43ad83c28mr704221qvd.124.1663258205303; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 3c22fb11fdab.ant.amazon.com (pool-71-125-32-130.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [71.125.32.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t9-20020ac85309000000b00342fb07944fsm3483329qtn.82.2022.09.15.09.10.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87o7vg6i27.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 15 Sep 2022 12:36:00 +0200") X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242606 Archived-At: > * Michael Heerdegen [2022-09-15 12:36:00 +0200]: > > Sam Steingold writes: > >> _However_, I just called calendar from a Tramp buffer and the *Calendar* >> buffer's `default-directory' is a tramp directory. >> >> I don't think this is right. > > I think it's common behavior. Does it cause trouble? Yes. Local disk access is fast compared to Tramp (that may take forever and then actually fail). Thus a simple C-x C-f from a buffer with a remote `default-directory' can become a nightmare - before I even see the prompt. `default-directory' should be remote only when there is a definite reason for that (IOW, for remote files and directories), it should not be inherited by non-file buffers at random. Thank you! -- Sam Steingold (https://aphar.dreamwidth.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.2113 https://lastingimpactpsychology.com https://steingoldpsychology.com https://ij.org/ https://honestreporting.com https://www.peaceandtolerance.org/ Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a nice rock.