From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: david.boyd@catalinamarketing.com (J. David Boyd) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: gutter region on both sides of screen Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hbvjzwr1.fsf@fh-trier.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252083674 14281 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2009 17:01:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:01:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 19:01:06 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mjc9p-00034s-Ju for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:01:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46640 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc9o-0008E8-SQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:01:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc9O-0008DB-QJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc9J-0008AM-Hs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:00:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39687 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mjc9I-0008AI-5o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:00:32 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49624) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mjc9H-0007ia-Bs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mjc9A-0002qn-5x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:00:24 +0200 Original-Received: from 198.204.74.254 ([198.204.74.254]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:00:24 +0200 Original-Received: from david.boyd by 198.204.74.254 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:00:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.204.74.254 User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bXYnsIWCj0YPw50KmOaV6yUSgaA= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Spam-Report: 7.0 points; * 0.0 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name * -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 4.0 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO * 3.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net * [Blocked - see ] Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:67876 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> >> Hmm, I'm using emacs 21.3.1, which has 'fringe', but no >> >> 'fringe-mode'. Any ideas how to turn it off there? > > Emacs 21 introduced fringe as a feature, but AFAIK provided no way to > turn it off. This is a good example of how not to add a new > feature. ;-) > > In Emacs 21, there is no function or variable with `fringe' in its > name, and I know of no function or variable that can be used to remove > the fringe. > > You can customize the face `fringe', to (for example) make its > background color the same as the frame's background color - that will > make the fringe seem to disappear, at least: `M-x customize-face RET > fringe RET'. > > The best suggestion, if it's feasible for you, is to upgrade to a more > recent Emacs release. Emacs 22 is quite stable. Emacs 23 was just > released recently. Starting with Emacs 22, it is easy to wear no > fringe. ;-) It's actually not the color of the fringe that bothers me, it is the little 'wrap' characters that I don't like. I'm looking at a file where the lines are about 500 char long, and the little clockwise and counterclockwise symbols that tell me the line is wrapping bother me. They are visual nose that I don't need. I _know_ the line is wrapping. I can't find where to turn those off either, or what the glyphs are called. Dave