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* Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
@ 2020-04-26 15:43 Stefan Kangas
  2020-04-26 16:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
                   ` (6 more replies)
  0 siblings, 7 replies; 77+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2020-04-26 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs developers

In Bug#40813, I suggest the following:

    * CONTRIBUTE:
    * etc/CALC-NEWS:
    * etc/DEBUG:
    * etc/MACHINES:
    * etc/PROBLEMS:
    * etc/TODO: Use org-mode instead of outline-mode.

The reason is that I believe our users are more familiar with org-mode
than outline-mode, and that I simply think the interface is better.
It's the forward-looking, "modern" choice, if you like.

This was not met with undivided enthusiasm, and the suggestion was to
bring the discussion here.

Here's my attempt to summarize the counter-arguments:

(1) Outline-mode is in fact more well-known than org-mode.
(2) Org-mode increases memory consumption (by 1-3 MB).
(3) We could improve outline-mode by adding something like org-cycle (TAB).
(4) There's a slight delay when opening an org file for the first time
in a session.

I would say that (1) is hard to prove or disprove, and I have only
anecdotal evidence here.  Regarding (2), this is true but I disagree
that it's significant enough to worry about in this day and age.  It's
hard to argue against (3) but it needs an interested party to do it.
Finally, I don't know if anything can be done about (4).

So please make it known how you feel about this proposal.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas



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2020-04-26 15:43 Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 16:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 18:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 19:52     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 20:54       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:53         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-26 16:16 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-26 17:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-26 19:29   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-26 21:54   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-26 22:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 22:41       ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27  7:20         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 15:23           ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 15:31             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-27  7:39       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 14:27         ` Reveal-mode (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 10:23     ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-27 11:45       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-27 20:30         ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-27 21:24           ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 23:05           ` John Yates
2020-04-28  2:51           ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:23             ` Bastien
2020-04-28 15:12           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 16:41             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 17:56               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-28 19:22                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-04-28 23:35             ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-29 10:53               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 11:37                 ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core (was: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-04-29 12:30                   ` Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 10:45                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-04 14:50                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-04 16:14                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-06 14:54                           ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode (was: Reconciling org-mode idiosyncrasies with Emacs core) Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 10:48                             ` [PATCH] Make RET and C-j obey `electric-indent-mode' in org-mode Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 12:03                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 12:21                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-07 16:45                                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 16:50                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 19:38                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-24  6:25                                         ` Bastien
2020-05-07 13:53                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:33                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-24  6:23             ` Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Bastien
2020-05-24  6:18           ` Bastien
2020-04-27 12:14       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-24  6:13   ` Bastien
2020-04-26 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-24  6:15   ` Bastien
2020-04-27  2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27  6:37   ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-27  7:12     ` tomas
2020-04-28  2:49     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28  9:40       ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-29  3:30         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:16     ` Bastien
2020-04-27  9:59 ` Po Lu
2020-04-27 14:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-27 14:49     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:27       ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29  3:52         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 13:54           ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:08             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29 14:17             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-29 14:52               ` Howard Melman
2020-04-29 14:03         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-30 10:25           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-07 21:01           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 17:50             ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-08 17:55               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-24  6:35             ` Bastien
2020-04-29 17:52         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-29 19:19           ` Howard Melman
2020-04-30  2:24         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-24  6:04 ` Bastien

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