From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Howard Melman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-o Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:48:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87cynw7omw.fsf@dancol.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28774"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:3TT1by/Ig4SjMn0gcYMRaGCOO5A= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 03 17:24:50 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sP1qj-0007IT-SR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 17:24:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP1pg-0003QP-LH; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 11:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOzPp-0003Vv-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:48:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOzPk-0003sM-Kp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOzPf-00024o-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 14:48:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 11:23:41 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321260 Archived-At: Per Starbäck writes: > I have realized I want to add more text somewhere in the text: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the beginning of the text before the insertion. Here is the > end of the text, after the insertion. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Point is on "H" in "Here". Before typing the new text I do > C-o to get the continuation out of the way while typing. > I wouldn't do that if I'm just adding something short, but > if I'm adding a longer text I would. In programming I > would also do that if adding something longer or something > complicated. It feels better to be at the end of the line > when adding text than to push text in front of you, which > can look a bit disturbing, especially if it is long enough > to be broken over to the next line. I do this too. I write prose with soft newlines in visual-line mode, usually in markdown-mode which can have some performance problems with font-locking in larger buffers. If I'm inserting text in the middle of a paragraph I'll use C-o to make the paragraph smaller first which can alleviate the performance issue. I'll then rejoin the paragraph if I added text or delete the following paragraph if I've rewritten it and convinced myself the new text is better. I also commonly use C-x C-o (delete-blank-lines) so having line changing commands on C-o seems consistent to me. Oddly I never use join-line M-^ instead making use of C-k and C-d and M-SPC for such work. -- Howard