From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#869: Bug in handling invisible text, and bug in Pmail. 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Stallman" writes: > I think it is also a bug in Pmail. Pmail should set the buffer boundaries > after that text, rather than making it invisible. I don't think it is that simple because "that text" is simply part of the collection of headers, some of which have been specified to be invisible as Emacs displays the message, i.e. the X-Coding-System: header can, according to rfc2822, precede or follow the Date: header. This, if I understand the issue and your desires properly, makes setting the buffer boundaries a non-workable solution. I don't know what the right solution is yet. Worst case, the issue is an indictment of using invisible text to hide the headers. Yuck. -pmr > If Pmail is fixed, then it won't trigger the invisible text bug. > But I think it needs to be fixed anyway. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From Brand@xyzxysxysbb.com Fri Aug 22 01:11:22 2008 > X-Coding-System: undecided-unix > Return-path: > Envelope-to: rms@gnu.org > Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:11:22 -0400 > Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:43206) > by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) > (envelope-from ) > id 1KWOvi-0001Cl-Jw > for rms@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:11:22 -0400 > Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) > (envelope-from ) > id 1KWOwz-0000Ti-Nv > for rms@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:12:44 -0400 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on monty-python > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, > FORGED_RCVD_HELO,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.0 > Received: from sh.day.org ([198.102.73.65]:47087) > by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) > (envelope-from ) > id 1KWOwz-0000T4-E6 > for rms@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:12:41 -0400 > X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e > Received: from vree.xyzxysxysbb.com (sh.day.org [198.102.73.65]) > by sh.day.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18A9EC6988A39 > for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:12:38 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by vree.xyzxysxysbb.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m7M1kbEs004491 > for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:46:46 -0700 > Message-Id: <200808220146.m7M1kbEs004491@vree.xyzxysxysbb.com> > To: rms@gnu.org > Subject: sorry that I was distracted with phone calls > From: Brand@xyzxysxysbb.com > Reply-to: brand@xyzxysxysbb.com > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:46:37 -0700 > X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. > X-BABYL-V6-ATTRIBUTES: A------ > > > > Two other ideas to run past you when time permits. > > /w