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From: Tianxiang Xiong <tianxiang.xiong@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Entering Unicode characters
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:36:57 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20160125T222539-152@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1aNjCP-0004Ya-Si@fencepost.gnu.org

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

>   > You should be able to get the common ones with the C-x 8 commands 
that
>   > work out of the box.
> 
> C-x 8 may be a good replacement for iso-acc, iso-insert, iso-swed.
> 
> 			   "C-x 8 RET"
>   > should give you any unicode character by name.
> 
> That is useless in practice, because it requires users to know these
> long and often obscure names.  When I wanted to do this, I was unable
> to do it with C-x 8.  I was totally stumped!  All I could do was try
> to find a file which had the character I wanted.
> 
> We need a way to enter any Unicode character that is EASY to use
> and does not require using its official name.
> 

Seems to me that this is a problem that should be solved by an 
incremental completion framework.

For example, the "helm-ucs" command from the Helm package provides the 
following features:

- List of all symbols by their proper names in a temporary buffer
- Incremental completion; e.g. I can type "Greek theta" and only symbols 
whose offical names contain the words "Greek" and "theta" are included 
in the result set.
- Preview of symbols (so you can easily see what it looks like and 
whether it's supported by your font)
- Hex character code
- Action menu specifying actions to take on a symbo (e.g. insert symbol, 
copy hex code, etc.)

A solution that does not involve the "official" name would only increase 
the cognitive load for the user because they'd have to know the 
"unofficial" name and how to map it to the official name. Considering 
the large number of symbols users may want to insert, this does not seem 
like a good solution.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-25 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-11  3:09 A proposal for removing obsolete packages Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-11 14:41 ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-11 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-12  4:24   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-19  5:28     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20  2:54       ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-20  7:25         ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 17:05           ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-20 17:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 19:52               ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:38                 ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-20 20:46                   ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20 21:03                     ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-21  3:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:22                 ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-21  3:02             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-23 21:15               ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-23 22:03                 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24  1:02                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24  1:08                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-24  1:56                     ` Drew Adams
2016-01-24 21:44                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25  2:37                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25  1:42                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-25  4:41                   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-25 15:37                     ` Entering Unicode characters Richard Stallman
2016-01-25 16:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:20                         ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-25 17:51                           ` Teemu Likonen
2016-01-25 20:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26  1:24                             ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2016-01-26  3:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 18:59                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-25 19:28                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26  8:38                         ` Oleh Krehel
2016-01-25 21:36                       ` Tianxiang Xiong [this message]
2016-01-25 22:17                         ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 22:26                           ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26  9:39                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:55                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-26 14:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-26 14:54                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 21:41                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-27  3:35                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  6:01                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-28 23:16                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-29  8:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 15:51                                         ` handa
2016-01-29 16:14                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-29 16:24                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-01-30  3:03                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30  7:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30  7:36                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-30  7:46                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 12:16                                             ` handa
2016-01-30 13:53                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  0:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 11:31                           ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-27  0:46                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 12:40                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-01-26 15:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-27  0:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 17:08                           ` Tianxiang Xiong
2016-01-26 17:37                             ` Drew Adams
2016-01-26 18:08                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 18:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 11:56                           ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 12:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-06 13:59                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-06 14:30                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 11:20                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-07 18:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 18:42                               ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-08 14:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-08 14:25                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 12:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:18                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10  0:12                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10 17:52                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 18:19                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-07 22:02                               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 13:02                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-08 17:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 12:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 13:26                                       ` Dale Snell
2016-02-10  0:11                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-09 17:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09  6:01                                   ` Alexis
2016-02-09 15:21                                     ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10  0:11                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  1:16                                         ` Alexis
2016-02-10 14:16                                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-11 18:59                                             ` John Wiegley
     [not found]                                       ` <<E1aTINY-0007Rg-IA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-10  2:07                                         ` Drew Adams
2016-02-10  4:14                                           ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-02-10 14:15                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  0:08                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-10  4:17                                       ` Jose E. Marchesi
2016-02-08 14:18                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-12 11:32                               ` Helmut Eller
2016-02-13 15:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <<E1aO05V-0007eR-Kw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-26 16:58                           ` Drew Adams
2016-01-25 13:01                   ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26  9:36                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-26 10:30                       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-27  0:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27  1:03                           ` Alexis
2016-01-27 22:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-27  8:41                           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-25 15:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <<m2a8nu46ff.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <<E1aNjCP-0004Ya-Si@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-01-25 16:04                       ` Entering Unicode characters Drew Adams
2016-01-25 16:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 16:43                 ` A proposal for removing obsolete packages John Wiegley
2016-01-26 17:32                   ` John Wiegley
2016-02-03  4:45                     ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12  5:25   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12  4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-12  5:25   ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-12 21:49     ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-14  5:19       ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-17 22:53         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-14 23:09       ` Phillip Lord
2016-01-16  4:13         ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-16 19:10           ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-18 18:47             ` Andrew Hyatt
2016-01-19 13:51               ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-19 14:54           ` Phillip Lord
     [not found] <<m28u3wak2g.fsf@gmail.com>

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