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From: Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs as WM
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:21:56 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20140819T171044-661@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83d2bwcyu7.fsf@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> 
> So I think users prefer Office because it has capabilities that Emacs
> doesn't, and not because its "point and click" interface is easier
> than that of Emacs.
> 

On Windows people prefer office also because it looks and behaves as
any other application. So they prefer familiarity too and being
familiar is also a big part of simplicity and ease of use.

Emacs looks completely alien on Windows and its behavior is also 
alien.

The most obvious example is copy/paste which is Ctrl-C/V on windows
while emacs uses something else.

There was a discussion about making Ctrl-C/V the default a while
ago, but it was rejected because it goes against emacs standards.
It does, but most users won't relearn basic keys just to use emacs
which has no obvious advantages for them which would be worth it.

WYSIWYG alone won't gain many new users while emacs stays so
different in other UI points.




  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-19 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-08 20:35 Emacs as WM Matthew Plant
2014-08-08 20:51 ` John Yates
2014-08-08 23:04   ` Feng Shu
2014-08-11  8:19     ` Samuel El-Borai
2014-08-08 22:49 ` joakim
2014-08-11  1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-11  7:33   ` document sharing (was Re: Emacs as WM) Nic Ferrier
2014-08-11 14:36   ` Emacs as WM Stefan Monnier
2014-08-12  3:15     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-12 13:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13  3:58         ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-13 12:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 22:48             ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-14  2:43               ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-15  1:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-15  2:59                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-15 17:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-15 19:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-16  2:19                         ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-16  3:06                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-17 14:47                           ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-18  1:07                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-18  2:39                               ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-18 14:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-18 20:13                                   ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-18 20:54                                     ` Glenn Morris
2014-08-19  1:04                                       ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-19  2:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19  4:56                                           ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-19  5:58                                           ` Tom
2014-08-19 14:56                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19 15:21                                               ` Tom [this message]
2014-08-19 15:39                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19 15:48                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-08-19 13:09                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-20  1:55                                   ` Alexis
2014-08-20  2:16                                   ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-21  2:41                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-21  2:59                                       ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-21  6:15                                         ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-22  9:48                                           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-08-21 20:33                                         ` Josh

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