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From: Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:05:42 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20131203T175045-6@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwva9gj1751.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> Maybe we should look at it the other way: what do we want to use this for?
> IIUC the idea was to try and decide what features to enable by default.
> So, how can we recognize a "feature to enable"?
> Major modes associated to file names don't really fit our needs,
> for example.  Applications like Gnus, Ediff, or Org don't either.

We have the list of features enabled in user configs compiled from the bug
reports. 

The ideas was to filter out all the default/supporting features from this
list and then we're left with features which can be enabled. 

I did some manual filtering as a test and here are some of the top packages
which remained:

(ido . 137)
(uniquify . 136)
(imenu . 114)
(eldoc . 113)
(ispell . 107)
(flyspell . 91)
(recentf . 90)
(saveplace . 77)
(yasnippet . 75)
(windmove . 70)
(auto-complete . 66)
(delsel . 64)
(paredit . 49)
(iswitchb . 46)
(savehist . 43)
(linum . 38)
(icomplete . 34)
(winner . 34)
(hippie-exp . 32)
(ibuffer . 29)
...


As you can see uniqify is there.

Ido is at the top (iswitchb is also here) and ido/isiwtchb would really
make a much better first impression for new users than the default
very barebone buffer switching.

recentf/saveplace/savehist are all great improvements. They could be 
enabled by default.

winner/windmove suggest the default window movement is not very
convenient.


Of course, this package measurement should be repeated with
representative data, but even with the data acquired from bug reports
it gives some ideas for packages which could be enabled by default.





  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-03 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-29 16:50 Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-29 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 18:54   ` Tom
2013-11-29 20:12     ` chad
2013-11-29 20:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 21:01       ` Tom
2013-11-29 21:40         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 22:13           ` Tom
2013-11-30  1:59             ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30  6:34                 ` Tom
2013-11-30 13:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 19:10                     ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:01                       ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:13                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01  9:21                           ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:33                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 15:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-01 16:42                           ` Tom
2013-12-01 19:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 17:09                               ` Tom
2013-12-02 17:45                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-03 17:05                                   ` Tom [this message]
2013-12-03 18:11                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 18:30                                       ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:18                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 19:32                                           ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:55                                         ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA & Survey suggestions(Re: Finding packages to enable by default) Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 20:35                                           ` Tom
2013-12-04  5:04                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  5:29                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 15:50                                               ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-04 15:48                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05  4:46                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 14:27                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 14:45                                                 ` joakim
2013-12-05 16:33                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 16:56                                                     ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-06  0:49                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  3:28                                                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06  3:49                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 23:18                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-06  1:34                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  8:26                                       ` Finding packages to enable by default Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  9:13                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  4:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04  4:21                                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2013-12-04  5:46                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 16:08                                         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-04 20:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 20:32                                             ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:16                                               ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-04 21:36                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05  1:35                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 15:24                                                 ` Davis Herring
2013-12-05 17:10                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05 18:42                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 23:33                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-04 21:13                                             ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-04 21:18                                               ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:39                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-04 22:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-05  7:00                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  8:51                                                 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:25                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 18:57                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-05 23:33                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  0:55                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  2:07                                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  4:28                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  5:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  5:53                                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  6:05                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:37                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:18                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:20                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 11:29                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:42                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 13:57                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 14:18                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:09                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:21                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-12-06 17:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 17:40                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-07 22:48                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 17:45                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-12-08 21:21                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-10  1:58                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11  3:48                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:09                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:43                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-08 20:23                                                               ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-08 20:50                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 22:35                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-09  2:13                                                                 ` ada mode [was Re: Finding packages to enable by default] Glenn Morris
2013-12-12 16:42                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-12 17:44                                                                     ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-10  2:04                                                                 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 17:59                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-11  3:50                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11  8:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-11 11:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:13                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:44                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 15:26                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  4:17                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  8:21                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  0:28                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05  4:34                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  5:37                                             ` Josh
2013-12-06  5:46                                               ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:01                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 21:32                                       ` icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05  1:30                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05  2:05                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 12:45                                             ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 13:26                                               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 15:44                                                 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-10  1:43                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-10  9:56                                                     ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-11 14:07                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 18:24                                                         ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-23  1:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-27 22:24                                                             ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-05  8:10                                           ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 18:57                                           ` Josh
2013-12-08 19:05                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-08 19:09                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 18:39                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-10  5:15                                             ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 18:09                                                 ` Josh
2013-12-12  3:33                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 12:07                                                     ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 12:26                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 12:41                                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 16:38                                                         ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:11                                                         ` chad
2013-12-13  2:45                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-13  2:56                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  3:31                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 18:20                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 18:53                                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 19:34                                                           ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:15                                                     ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:06                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 16:49                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-06 17:39                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 23:07                                             ` Josh
2013-12-07 13:22                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-11-30  6:27               ` Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-30 19:06                 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:10                   ` Tom
2013-12-01 22:55                     ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 17:15                       ` Tom
2013-12-05 19:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-30  5:34         ` Josh
2013-11-30  6:03           ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-16 12:07   ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-17 10:34     ` Jambunathan K
2014-06-19 15:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 22:54         ` Drew Adams
2014-06-19 23:57         ` Daimrod
2014-06-20  8:25         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20  9:25           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-20 12:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 13:38             ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 15:17                 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 18:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 19:49                     ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-21  1:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-21 13:18                         ` wcheck-mode (was: Finding packages to enable by default) Teemu Likonen
2014-07-07 14:07                           ` wcheck-mode Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 14:44               ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25  9:11             ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 21:51         ` Juri Linkov
2014-06-25  9:12           ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 22:16         ` Glenn Morris
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