From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386004568 2689 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2013 17:16:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:16:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 18:16:14 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VnX6T-0005Xj-S5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:16:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38019 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnX6T-0005jv-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:16:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48569) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnX6K-0005iL-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:16:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnX6E-0005za-So for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:16:04 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45183) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnX6E-0005zW-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:15:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VnX6D-0005KH-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:15:57 +0100 Original-Received: from 84-236-8-129.pool.digikabel.hu ([84.236.8.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:15:57 +0100 Original-Received: from adatgyujto by 84-236-8-129.pool.digikabel.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:15:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 84.236.8.129 (Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166015 Archived-At: Richard Stallman gnu.org> writes: > > Using Google Docs requires running nonfree software. > (It is Javascript software that comes in the web pages.) > That is an unethical system. > > We must not ask people to use Google Docs. > People don't have to use Google Docs. The web form is a regular HTML form which works without Javascript, so users can submit their data without JS and no login is required either to submit the form. I have to use Google web services for my work anyway, so I can export the data as text from the spreadsheet when enough data is received and then make the resulting CSV file available somewhere.