From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385916175 14403 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2013 16:42:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:42:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 01 17:43:01 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VnA6k-0004ZB-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:42:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60321 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnA6j-0003yK-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 11:42:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41343) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnA6b-0003y4-6n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 11:42:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnA6V-0002CL-LM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 11:42:49 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VnA6V-0002CF-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 11:42:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VnA6T-0004N8-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:42:41 +0100 Original-Received: from 178-164-187-14.pool.digikabel.hu ([178.164.187.14]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:42:41 +0100 Original-Received: from adatgyujto by 178-164-187-14.pool.digikabel.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:42:41 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 178.164.187.14 (Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165984 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > > I think you should filter out the ones that appear in `features' after > "emacs -Q". > This will hardly make a dent in the results, becase there 6000 items in the list and emacs with -Q returns only 110 features for me. It still leaves things like: (x . 268) (x-dnd . 267) (x-win . 267) (x-toolkit . 264) (newcomment . 264) (ring . 259) (advice . 257) (font-render-setting . 253) (macroexp . 252) (dbusbind . 249) (cl . 246) (comint . 243) (tabulated-list . 241) (easy-mmode . 239) (kmacro . 236) (edmacro . 232) (gtk . 231) (byte-compile . 230) (bytecomp . 229) (byte-opt . 229) ... These seem fairly basic stuff. I should mention that I use 24.1.1. Is it possible that the current emacs has a much longer features list with -Q? Could someone using the latest emacs check it? > Another thing worthwhile would be to normalize the numbers as percentages. Good idea, but first we should trim down the list somehow.