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From: Adrian Robert <Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mac OS-compatible ports
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 15:31:45 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20120101T155538-745@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: A279ACCA-FF93-42FF-A551-F7D9807D260D@swipnet.se


Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> writes:

> 1 jan 2012 kl. 02:54 skrev
>   YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>:
> > 
> > What about the "Lisp evaluation inside read_socket_hook" problem
> > on the GNUstep port?  Is your idea for Cocoa (Mac OS X 10.5 or
> > later) applicable to GNUstep, or do you have another idea?
> 
> If GNUstep provides the same API, it is applicable, but I have to get
 GNUstep up and running first to check.
> Their documentation says no, but that might not be up to date.
> 
> But I'm sure some solution can be found. It does not need to be the same
> as for OSX. 
> 
> On another note, could your font backend be plugged in in Emacs 24?  Would it
> be worthwhile?


In principle it should be possible to plug in pieces from some of
the font backend function implementations.  It would necessitate
ifdefs for GNUstep.  One way to make that cleaner would be simply
to split the backends for GNUstep and MacOS, using a superclass
for common functionality, similar to W32 and X.

As far as read_socket_hook, there has been a lot of discussion of
this in the past.  Yamamoto-san has always insisted there is an
irremediable design issue in the NS port, but I've never been
convinced of this, preferring to target and fix individual
problems.  Not sure if either of us can be 100% objective
though. ;-)

Still, when I last looked at this (years ago now), it seemed like
it would be possible to switch the event loop approach without
large-scale code changes.

One aspect which I don't remember the status of is multi-TTY.  I
remember at one point the Mac port wasn't working with it.  Is
that still the case?  If so is it a design issue relating to the
event loop approach or something that could be fixed?

-Adrian





  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-01 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-12 13:11 C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Carsten Mattner
2011-12-14 17:56 ` chad
2011-12-14 20:50 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-14 21:45   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15  6:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 20:42       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 20:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 21:22           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 21:24       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 12:46         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 13:33           ` Jan D.
2011-12-16 14:21             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 14:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 19:00                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 19:02                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:11                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:14                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:19                         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:21                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 21:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:21                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 21:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:22                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17  8:33                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:24                             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-12-17  3:41                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-17  4:36                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-17  8:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17  9:46                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 12:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 13:50                                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 15:39                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 15:49                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 16:08                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 16:09                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 16:20                                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 16:47                                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 17:15                                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 17:19                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 17:46                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:06                                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 18:18                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:20                                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19  8:40                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-19 10:59                                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 11:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-19 11:51                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 14:04                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-19 11:53                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-17  9:27                               ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-16 21:49                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17  8:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17  0:22                             ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-17  9:14                               ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 17:30                                 ` Adrian Robert
2011-12-17 17:53                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:19                                 ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-19 18:18                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 21:31                                     ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-19  9:00                               ` René Kyllingstad
2011-12-19 11:00                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 15:53                                   ` Jan D.
2011-12-19 16:52                                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 17:04                                       ` chad
2011-12-19 17:25                                       ` René Kyllingstad
2011-12-19 17:47                                         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 22:27                                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-12-19 22:29                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 23:42                                             ` chad
2011-12-20  0:03                                         ` chad
2011-12-20  1:12                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20  1:28                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20  1:40                                             ` chad
2011-12-20  2:14                                               ` Glenn Morris
2011-12-20  2:32                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20  9:24                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20 18:33                                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-21  0:38                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-21 10:42                                                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-22  0:34                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 11:23                                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-22  0:42                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 11:28                                                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-23  1:28                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-23  8:09                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-24  1:54                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-26 15:31                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-26 15:46                                                               ` David Reitter
2011-12-26 16:26                                                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-26 16:41                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-27  1:28                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-27  1:14                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-23 13:26                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-23 15:05                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-27 15:52                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-28  4:50                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-28  7:36                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-28 10:42                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-28 13:44                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-29  0:18                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-29  0:57                                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-29 15:15                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-30  0:34                                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-30 14:52                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-30 22:12                                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-31 13:22                                                                             ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-31 14:27                                                                               ` Mac OS-compatible ports Jan D.
2012-01-01  1:54                                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 10:48                                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-01 15:31                                                                                     ` Adrian Robert [this message]
2012-01-02  0:13                                                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01  1:47                                                                               ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01  7:02                                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 21:18                                                                                   ` Mac OS-compatible ports David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-02  6:04                                                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 10:50                                                                                 ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) Carsten Mattner
2012-01-01 14:06                                                                                 ` Mac OS-compatible ports Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-02  0:43                                                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01  6:26                                                                               ` Leo
2012-01-01 10:36                                                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-01 10:48                                                                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-02 10:08                                                                                   ` Christian Lynbech
2012-01-07 13:09                                                                                     ` Dimitri Fontaine
2012-01-08  1:07                                                                                       ` Dave Abrahams
2012-01-08  1:10                                                                                       ` Dave Abrahams
2012-01-08  1:28                                                                                       ` chad
2012-01-08  8:37                                                                                         ` Dimitri Fontaine
2012-01-01 13:24                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 19:22                                                                                 ` chad
2011-12-20  1:57                                             ` C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Leo
2011-12-20  7:29                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-19 18:15                                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-12-19 18:50                                         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 19:40                                           ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-12-19 20:16                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 20:46                                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-20 17:34                                                 ` Adrian Robert
2011-12-17 18:26             ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-17 18:30               ` Carsten Mattner
     [not found]                 ` <CACY+HvrywuKjP8-TtONhaX-D6hK7WPKFhe2gqWA9BkjkpZ_uAg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-18 10:22                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-18 13:52                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 14:35                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-18 15:09                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 17:58                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19  6:32                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 11:04                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 13:33                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 15:55                             ` Jan D.
2011-12-19 16:53                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 17:48                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 18:51                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 20:16                                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 16:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-18 17:11                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19  2:51                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-19 11:10                   ` Carsten Mattner

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