From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87wrt0e81n.fsf@telefonica.net> <62E9699C07054418AB66F9C5FCB54E5C@us.oracle.com> <87sk3oe3la.fsf@telefonica.net> <1154D96E7D2F401D849266F359E44BB9@us.oracle.com> <87ocecdzou.fsf@telefonica.net> <2256C17F740A425884AD551DE7758056@us.oracle.com> <87fwzodqqm.fsf@telefonica.net> <5138CDF30B2D4B778F948015614DA7BC@us.oracle.com> <87iq4ijtdy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <838w5dgln1.fsf@gnu.org> <837hkxgj4m.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279188888 8705 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2010 10:14:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:14:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 15 12:14:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZLSn-0000aN-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:14:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36753 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZLSk-0000m5-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36243 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZLSb-0000lM-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:14:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZLSa-0000A9-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36316) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZLSa-00009w-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:14:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZLSV-0000Tt-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:14:27 +0200 Original-Received: from 94-21-242-87.pool.digikabel.hu ([94.21.242.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:14:27 +0200 Original-Received: from levelhalom by 94-21-242-87.pool.digikabel.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:14:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 94.21.242.87 (Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.60) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127344 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii gnu.org> writes: > > Well, Notepad has all the familiar UI you are talking about, but > somehow it doesn't attract "more hackers". I guess your logic lacks > something important. > Have you seen the image of the learning curve of editors? http://bc.tech.coop/blog/060302.html Notepad has a limited feature set which obviously doesn't inspire its users. On the other hand Emacs has much more depth than that. The goal is to make emacs easier to use for the newcomer, so he stays for a while and has a chance to discover emacs is a beautiful swan in the disguise of an ugly duckling. :)