From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Spiro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878wwen09k.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsfjtl0s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225828287 30729 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2008 19:51:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:51:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 04 20:52:29 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KxRwq-0003tU-80 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:52:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRvi-0004yM-Kx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRnw-0001Iw-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:43:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRnt-0001Hs-LM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42499 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRnt-0001Hk-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:35842 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxRnt-0004ks-DO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KxRnb-0007Qa-GY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:42:47 +0000 Original-Received: from CPE000d8824ef4e-CM0013718690da.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([72.138.124.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:42:47 +0000 Original-Received: from jasonspiro4 by CPE000d8824ef4e-CM0013718690da.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:42:47 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 72.138.124.65 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.3) Gecko/2008092816 Iceweasel/3.0.3 (Debian-3.0.3-2)) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105355 Archived-At: Chong Yidong stupidchicken.com> wrote: > It's a little counter-intuitive for menu items to open hyperlinks, at > least in my experience. So name the menu item this: "Emacs Guided Tour (web page)". Or, as I mentioned months ago[1], you could ship the tour .odp and .pdf files with Emacs like XEmacs does[2], then ask the OS to launch them in whatever it thinks is the appropriate viewer. I like that idea better, since I like the slideshow version of the tour[3] much more than the webpage version. (Though maybe I only like it more because I am already a non-newbie Emacs user. Do you agree that that's probably why I like it more?) ^ [1]. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=100397 ^ [2]. http://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/guided-tour- 0.52-pkg.tar.gz ^ [3]. http://web.psung.name/emacs/