From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: aaditya sood Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Cruise Control to mitigate failure in make bootstrap? Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20080412104858.GD1781@muc.de> <4800C111.3090407@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208014821 10643 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 15:40:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:40:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 17:40:55 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkhqY-0006Hq-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:40:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jkhpu-0006XQ-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jkhpq-0006Vx-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jkhpp-0006TZ-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jkhpo-0006TS-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jkhpo-0000EZ-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jkhpj-0000hG-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:40:04 +0000 Original-Received: from ABTS-KK-Dynamic-089.70.167.122.airtelbroadband.in ([ABTS-KK-Dynamic-089.70.167.122.airtelbroadband.in]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:40:03 +0000 Original-Received: from emacs by ABTS-KK-Dynamic-089.70.167.122.airtelbroadband.in with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:40:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 122.167.70.89 (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9pre) Gecko/2008041004 Minefield/3.0pre) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95057 Archived-At: Jason Rumney gnu.org> writes: > > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I have used this product in one of my day jobs, and it works well. > > > > I suspect it works well in a day job environment, when you are working > for the same 8 hours a day as the other developers on the project. I > suspect it works less well for Free Software where volunteers might have > a haf hour to spare so they fix a bug, don't have time to do a full > bootstrap before checking in, then might not see any mail generated > because they are offline for the weekend. I agree. However it would let everyone else know that the trunk is broken, and someone can take appropriate action. It also allows a trail of known good checkpoints. At some point if unit tests are added to emacs they could be run as part of build, thus giving even more automatic test coverage. regards -- /A