From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sridhar Boovaraghavan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs geometry Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44C69619.6060304@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153890050 463 80.91.229.2 (26 Jul 2006 05:00:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 26 07:00:45 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5bVh-00050x-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:00:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5bVg-0000FC-S6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:00:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G5bVC-0000DD-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:00:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G5bVA-0000CQ-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G5bVA-0000CM-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1G5bWc-0006Ax-HH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:01:38 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1G5bV4-0004vE-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:00:02 +0200 Original-Received: from c-24-20-125-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net ([24.20.125.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:00:02 +0200 Original-Received: from sridhar_ml by c-24-20-125-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 24.20.125.22 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57650 Archived-At: I just want to acknowledge Drew for taking up the cudgels on my behalf here. In these posts he has articulated what I feel. To reiterate: 1. I feel that the new offsetting frame behavior to be a bug. 2. If it is a feature as some have argued, I don't like that as a default. Granted, I can get my old behavior back, but I feel that the old behavior is a better default. The argument that some people might have their task bar there doesn't mean that it is not a good default (clearly, it is not perfect) - such people can change their settings. 3. If the user has repositioned the emacs window before exiting, then I may be persuaded to see it coming back to that position when restarted given no other settings like +0+0 or a defined Left/Top. Even if so, what if he had two frames open while exiting - do we keep the position of the frame that had the focus as where emacs would come up - maybe there are other similar questions that need to be discussed. 4. If the user specifies HxW+X+Y in Emacs.Geometry, how about populating default-frame-alist with those values (given that he doesn't specify another value for it through his .emacs or .custom)? Regards, Sridhar