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From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs pretest -- electric-pair-mode change
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:42:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <li8uuo$7ou$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4n2atjop.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 4/3/14 11:33 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> [ Unrelated: it's odd that the speed should depend on the OS.  ]
>> I'm using two relatively similar dual-core machines. In windows I use
>> the builds of http://sourceforge.net/projects/emacs-bin/. Didn't I read
>> somewhere that these are compiled without optimization flags?
>
> Ah, so the difference is in the way they're compiled.  The OS factor is
> just "an accident".
>
>> Yes I see. But for me it's definitely better not to pair in those
>> situations
>
> But you'll also do the opposite: if there's an extra " somewhere far in
> the rest of the file (somewhere the user can't see and/or can't care
> less about), and the user has added a spurious " nearby, she will expect
> her next " to not-pair up (so as to complete the locally-unmatched, tho
> globally matched quote), whereas your code will decide to pair.
>
>> Anyway the "oh, it didn't pair..." disappointment is better than
>
> Yes, but the code can go wrong both ways.
>
>> "Something acceptible" then is "not pairing", just the self-insertion
>> the user asked for, rught?
>
> Yes.  Actually both pairing and non-pairing are acceptable.  What is not
> would be to signal an error, for example.
>
>> If (+ (point)<constant>) is less than (point-max) and inside a string
>> we additionally assert that at least that string is paired.
>
> Let's say (+ (point)<constant>) falls on the second line of the text
> below:
>
>     foo "bar" baz "toto
>     titi
>     tata "tutu" "blabla"
>
> should it say "yup, we're within the string 'toto\ntiti\ntata ' or
> should it say "no, we're not within a string"?
>
> If we agree that using (point-max) is a bad idea, then the only other
> option is to try and find some other spot in the buffer (and after
> point) which is somehow known to be "outside of a string", and in
> general we don't know how to find such a thing (point-max is the only
> one we know in general).  Hence electric-pair-string-bound-function
> (or give up on this idea and do something different).

Would replacing (+ (point) <constant>) with (window-end) give reliable
behavior, from the user's perspective?  If the extra " is not visible,
it would not impact the result.

-- 
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA




  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-11 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2014-03-31 13:27 ` Emacs pretest Stefan Monnier
2014-03-31 13:52   ` Bastien
2014-03-31 14:36   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-03-31 15:55   ` João Távora
2014-03-31 16:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-02 10:11       ` Emacs pretest -- electric-pair-mode change João Távora
2014-04-02 12:58         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-02 17:21           ` João Távora
2014-04-02 22:58             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 11:06               ` João Távora
2014-04-03 14:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 16:56                   ` João Távora
2014-04-03 17:33                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 20:11                       ` João Távora
2014-04-03 20:54                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-04  8:08                           ` João Távora
2014-04-04 12:53                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-04 23:31                               ` João Távora
2014-04-05 15:29                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-07  7:43                                   ` João Távora
2014-04-07 14:04                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-04  7:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-04  9:49                           ` João Távora
2014-04-11 14:42                       ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
2014-04-11 15:53                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-11 18:23                           ` João Távora
2014-04-11 19:58                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-12  0:42                               ` João Távora
2014-04-11 16:08                         ` João Távora
2014-04-03 19:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-03 12:15             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-04-03 13:43               ` João Távora
2014-04-03 15:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-03 14:24               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-01 15:15   ` Emacs pretest Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-01 16:36     ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-04-02 12:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-01 20:50   ` Stephen Berman

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