From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Call for testing: Daily snapshot builds of Emacs for Ubuntu Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 22:48:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wqr3fdr6.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368499730 26993 80.91.229.3 (14 May 2013 02:48:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 02:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Park Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 14 04:48:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc5IE-0001sq-FG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 04:48:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc5IE-0008ET-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 22:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35649) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc5IA-0008EB-K4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 22:48:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc5I9-0001vQ-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 22:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc5I9-0001vL-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 22:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uc5I4-0004EP-Ui; Mon, 13 May 2013 22:48:37 -0400 X-Spook: CipherTAC-2000 Echelon 9705 Samford Road Audiotel Panama X-Ran: [)T9r}[gv3`gKt:=tGzAt3zzAO|2A1+QrJX\+~jy)-aOE^.O)nd0 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159559 Archived-At: Robert Park wrote: > there's still a lot of cruft that I am rebelling against. Like 800 > lines worth of distropatching just to rip out some GFDL stuff. I find > that kind of thing quite odious and pride myself on having a packaging > branch that has no distropatches at all ;-) I only count 7 Debian patches to Emacs: http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/emacs24/24.3+1-1 Of course it is trivial to remove some of those if you don't need to obide by the rules that the distribution sets (on what they consider acceptable free software licenses in this instance) for its packages. Of the remaining 5 patches, the rest are all small. One is the debian-startup thing, one adds a pointer to Debian-specific docs, one modifies the version string, one handles the fact that they install it as "emacs24", and the last one is some flymake trivia that should as of just now be unnecessary. > Is there any possibility of generalizing this and having it accepted > in upstream emacs? Obviously we wouldn't commit any debianisms into > emacs trunk but it seems like it might be generally useful for emacs > to have some kind of site-start.d directory for all distros to place > custom startup scripts into. AFAICS, Red Hat solved this with a trivial and sensible-looking site-start.el: ;; load ".el" files in "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/" on startup (mapc 'load (directory-files "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d" t "\\.el\\'")) I don't know what the debian-startup thing brings to the table beyond that. (I'd probably ask http://lists.debian.org/debian-emacsen/ if I wanted to know.)