From: "Allen S. Rout" <asr@ufl.edu>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:38:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <l8nhai$r9i$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Vsbp3-00088q-Mp@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 12/16/2013 12:19 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
>
> I think the problem is that it is trying to treat the file as an
> outline. However, this is not an outline. It is a document with a
> title and some lists of bullet points.
>
It is a structured document. Some people would choose to _view_ it as an
outline. Others would choose to view as a block of pretty text, and yet
others would choose to view as a pile of plaintext with markup displayed
verbatim instead of interpreted.
So to attract "the type of users we're discussing here", the correct
paint job on the Org toolset would be org-mode and a stylized set of
startup variables, which defaulted to an expanded, pretty-printed display.
Does that sound reasonable?
Most importantly, it is an error to decide that this new use for the org
toolset is, all of a sudden, The Correct Interpretation Of Documents.
If we're going to deploy a swiss-army chainsaw for this, we've got the
"blind men and the elephant" problem writ pretty large.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
- Allen S. Rout
- The Blind Men and the Chainsaw.... Hmmm.
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2013-11-17 7:28 Emacs as word processor Richard Stallman
2013-11-17 8:18 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-18 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-18 22:12 ` Rasmus
2013-11-19 6:02 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 8:01 ` joakim
2013-11-19 23:42 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-20 6:54 ` joakim
2013-11-20 18:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-23 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 10:57 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-19 12:20 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-11-19 14:35 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-19 13:28 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2013-11-20 18:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-26 8:38 ` Tom
2013-11-26 15:58 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-26 23:08 ` Bastien
2013-11-26 23:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-12-15 16:16 ` Steinar Bang
2013-11-17 11:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-11-17 13:02 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-11-17 13:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-17 14:15 ` Juergen Fenn
2013-11-17 18:57 ` chad
2013-11-18 4:20 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-18 5:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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2013-11-18 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-18 19:42 ` Sean Sieger
2013-11-18 19:46 ` Sean Sieger
2013-11-19 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 7:08 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-18 20:19 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-11-19 6:02 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 8:46 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-11-19 9:39 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-19 11:21 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-19 14:35 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-11-19 15:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-11-20 18:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-21 15:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-11-21 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-21 21:27 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-21 22:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-22 0:51 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-22 6:37 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-22 21:06 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-22 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 15:26 ` Davis Herring
2013-11-22 16:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-22 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 19:01 ` John Yates
2013-11-22 21:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-11-23 15:13 ` John Yates
2013-11-23 15:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-23 16:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-23 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-23 21:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-25 17:51 ` John Yates
2013-11-25 18:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-25 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-25 18:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-25 18:52 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-26 7:26 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-22 21:06 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-22 21:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 22:01 ` John Yates
2013-11-22 22:56 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-23 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 22:53 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-23 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-23 13:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-24 8:13 ` PJ Weisberg
2013-11-24 17:44 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-25 20:42 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-11-25 21:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-25 21:21 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-11-25 21:54 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2013-11-21 22:12 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-22 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-22 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 14:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-22 15:39 ` Yuri Khan
2013-11-22 16:07 ` John Yates
2013-11-23 6:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-23 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-23 21:12 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-24 4:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-24 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-24 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-24 20:52 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-24 21:06 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-11-24 21:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-25 2:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-25 3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-25 5:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-25 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-26 2:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-26 3:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-26 7:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-26 15:34 ` John Yates
2013-11-26 16:57 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-26 18:47 ` John Yates
2013-11-26 15:04 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-26 19:51 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-26 20:36 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-26 19:48 ` Emacs as word processor / Text Properties Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-27 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-27 22:26 ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-27 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-27 23:06 ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-27 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-28 0:50 ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-28 1:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-28 4:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-28 6:03 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-28 7:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-28 7:34 ` Bastien
2013-11-28 8:53 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-29 8:44 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 8:49 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 8:52 ` Bastien
2013-11-29 9:01 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 9:05 ` Bastien
2013-11-29 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-29 9:51 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-29 13:42 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-29 16:47 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-29 14:18 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-29 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-29 10:06 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-29 6:50 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-30 1:09 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 20:04 ` Emacs as word processor Hendrik Boom
2013-11-25 3:06 ` Yuri Khan
2013-11-26 0:04 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-22 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-23 0:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-23 6:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-23 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-23 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-15 16:39 ` Steinar Bang
2013-12-16 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-16 18:02 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-16 18:38 ` Allen S. Rout [this message]
2013-12-17 10:52 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-17 11:39 ` Steinar Bang
2013-12-16 19:10 ` Steinar Bang
2013-12-17 10:52 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-16 20:37 ` Juan M. Gonzalez
2013-12-17 10:53 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-17 11:41 ` Steinar Bang
2013-12-17 11:48 ` Achim Gratz
2013-12-17 12:22 ` Steinar Bang
2013-12-17 21:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-19 7:28 ` Bastien
2013-12-19 18:23 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-19 18:45 ` Bastien
2013-12-19 23:24 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-11-20 18:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-21 6:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-21 14:34 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-11-21 21:16 ` Tom
2013-11-22 6:54 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-22 7:22 ` Ivan Andrus
2013-11-22 13:26 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-11-22 6:54 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-20 18:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-20 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-21 8:00 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-21 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-21 18:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-21 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 7:28 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-21 9:15 ` Bastien
2013-11-21 9:22 ` Bastien
2013-11-21 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-21 17:43 ` Bastien
2013-11-22 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 20:44 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-11-22 6:54 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-22 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-22 7:52 ` Bastien
2013-11-22 11:36 ` Rasmus
2013-11-19 8:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-19 23:42 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 9:02 ` Christoph
2013-11-19 19:22 ` chad
2013-11-20 18:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-18 13:59 ` Rasmus
2013-11-17 15:27 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-18 17:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2013-11-18 17:31 ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-19 9:20 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-19 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 7:44 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-19 13:32 ` Jay Belanger
2013-11-19 15:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-11-20 1:50 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-20 18:35 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-15 17:28 ` Steinar Bang
2013-12-15 18:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-16 0:17 ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-16 10:20 ` Juan M. Gonzalez
2013-11-19 6:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-22 16:19 ` Karl Voit
2013-11-22 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-24 11:11 ` Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to (was: Emacs as word processor) Karl Voit
2013-11-24 15:01 ` Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-11-24 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-24 17:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-11-25 12:24 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-26 7:01 ` Bastien
2013-11-26 9:10 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-26 9:15 ` Bastien
2013-11-26 9:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-26 9:34 ` Bastien
2013-11-26 15:58 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-26 18:28 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-26 21:45 ` Achim Gratz
2013-11-27 7:44 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-11-26 15:58 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-26 21:33 ` Achim Gratz
2013-11-24 18:36 ` Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to (was: Emacs as word processor) Richard Stallman
2013-11-23 6:06 ` Emacs as word processor Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 19:30 ` Hendrik Boom
2013-12-03 6:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-12-03 9:54 ` René Kyllingstad
2013-12-03 11:36 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 16:32 ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-03 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 17:08 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-12-13 22:28 ` Juan M. Gonzalez
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2013-11-23 21:03 Anas R.
2013-11-25 12:25 ` Richard Stallman
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