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From: JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: beginner questions
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 08:16:10 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <l2638a$ikv$1@reader1.panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2943.1380217948.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Ken Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 9/25/2013 3:55 AM, JohnF wrote:
>>    Most importantly, how to "turn off everything". For example,
>> no html help, e.g., I don't want to see <u>stuff</u> or
>> <h2>stuff</h2> underlined. And really annoying, I don't want
>> the cursor to momentarily jump back to ( after I type (stuff).
>> Ditto <stuff>, etc. Very distracting (to me). Basically,
>> I just want a dumb editor
> 
> For a beginner, I suggest you give 'everything' a try
> before you turn emacs into a dumb editor.

Not a beginner programmer, just a beginner with emacs.
And to begin with, I want to get some real work done immediately --
use emacs as a tool, not as a toy. Dumbing it down will just help
me get down to work. Otherwise, not yet being familiar with emacs,
I have to look up every second or two to see what it's doing,
to make sure I'm not doing something it's already done for me, etc.

> Emacs was written by real users, and does the right thing so often that 
> you'll wonder how you ever used any other editor.
> If you're writing code (and html is code) parenthesis matching, region 
> commenting, coloring, indenting, inserting tags, headers, lists, check 
> boxes and such will save a lot of typing and debug.

You're welcome to prefer what you like. Personal preferences are
personal. That's why they call them personal. My working habits are
different than yours. I absolutely hate colors, parentheses matching,
indenting.
 Speaking of which, I hadn't really exercised that fundamental-mode
properly when I remarked in preceding post that it worked fine.
It stops "parentheses" matching <stuff>, which is what I'd noticed
since I'm currently writing some html (but mostly write C nowadays).
But it still matches (stuff) and [stuff] and {stuff}. Any way to
turn that off? Thanks.

> Once you get into emacs, you can change the colors to your liking, as 
> well as assign keys for frequently used operations.
The only colors I like are black fg on white bg -- for >>everything<<.
And I usually prefer learning and using an editor's native command set,
rather than having it learn me. But some of those M-x commands can get
pretty lengthy.
-- 
John Forkosh  ( mailto:  j@f.com  where j=john and f=forkosh )


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-28  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-25  7:55 beginner questions JohnF
2013-09-25  9:26 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-25 11:18   ` JohnF
2013-09-25 12:55     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-28  8:39       ` JohnF
2013-09-28 15:30         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-28 17:11           ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-28 18:07             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-29  3:45               ` Drew Adams
2013-09-28 22:32             ` Kai Grossjohann
2013-09-29  8:30               ` Drew Adams
2013-09-29  7:27           ` JohnF
2013-09-29 13:45             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-30  8:46               ` JohnF
2013-09-26  2:22     ` Jude DaShiell
2013-09-25 17:47 ` Doug Lewan
     [not found] ` <mailman.2869.1380131281.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26  7:44   ` JohnF
2013-09-26 17:52 ` Ken Goldman
     [not found] ` <mailman.2943.1380217948.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-27  2:37   ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-28  8:16   ` JohnF [this message]
2013-09-28 18:18     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3090.1380392333.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-29  7:58       ` JohnF
2013-10-01 17:27       ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-01 17:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-01 20:02         ` Joost Kremers
2013-10-02  0:56         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3227.1380675393.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-10-02 14:34           ` Rustom Mody

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